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The NDAA written in secret by Senators McCain and Levin - Mark777 - 03-31-2012 10:19 PM
I believe the US Goobermint (king obama and co.) already targeted "Freedom Watch" hosted by Judge Andrew Napolitano on Fox News...probably thru an evil person named George Soros--this is my own thinking! I think they also targeted Glen Beck's show the same way. Are we plebeians and the internet next? No doubt about it IMO. Obama is the common denominator facilitating this mess since he's been in office--illegally!
This video is "old news"--a few months old based on how fast events have been happening lately. However, just because the presidente hasn't ordered the military to be used at his sole discretion because he thinks someone in the US is a terrorist doesn't mean he won't....especially after he gets re-elected. We better be praying this tyrant doesn't get re-elected. He loves to use drones...he's a coward IMO.
Why am I seriously thinking I may need to leave the only country I've ever lived in?
Watch the video in its entirety. If what the government is doing, doesn't make you at least think about moving elsewhere for liberty and personal safety, a bit suspicious, scared, etc., then I must be really screwed up!
And no, I don't think I'm screwed up regardless of what anyone else thinks.
BTW: I'm extremely disappointed that Fox News has caved to pressure (by obama, George Soros, and the criminal cabal, IMO) and discontinued the two most outspoken freedom sirens left in the major media.....all we have left is the internet and some radio hosts/shows.....that's their next target IMO of course again--and probably the biggest apple of all for them. Then all they have to do is control the masses with the military. This doesn't look good!
Sometimes...no quite often...I wish I was already living somewhere else! I'm narrowing the possible countries down...but don't know if I will be able to get out by the time I'm ready....so much to do and think about yet.
McCain and Levin IMO are traitors to the constitution and to the office they both swore to uphold and should at a minimum be kicked out of office WITHOUT HONOR along with obama and his vast entourage of unelected czars in the White House.
IMO we need a very thorough house cleaning. I don't see that happening without some serious consequences.
Does anyone see things the way I see them? I would like everyones opinion on what I have written about above and especially the content in the video.
Don't forget to vote after viewing the video in its entirety.
RE: The NDAA written in secret by Senators McCain and Levin - KYnyts - 04-01-2012 12:49 AM
You didn't include enough people...lol. Every member of Congress who voted for it, along with Pres. Obama AND every gov't lackey who played a role in drafting, as well as every single lobbyist who pushed for this legislation are all traitors, imo. This is about money and control and they have sold us out. If we are going to be a nation under the rule of law, this, along with a lot of other recently passed legislation, must go.
I may not be representative of the population, but if anyone had come to me and asked me to draft this type of legislation, I would have refused. Living paycheck to paycheck earned by flipping burgers at McD's would be preferable to my participating in the undermining of the Constitution and that is what I would have told them.
RE: The NDAA written in secret by Senators McCain and Levin - Mark777 - 04-01-2012 01:26 AM
(04-01-2012 12:49 AM)KYnyts Wrote: You didn't include enough people...lol. Every member of Congress who voted for it, along with Pres. Obama AND every gov't lackey who played a role in drafting, as well as every single lobbyist who pushed for this legislation are all traitors, imo. This is about money and control and they have sold us out. If we are going to be a nation under the rule of law, this, along with a lot of other recently passed legislation, must go.
I may not be representative of the population, but if anyone had come to me and asked me to draft this type of legislation, I would have refused. Living paycheck to paycheck earned by flipping burgers at McD's would be preferable to my participating in the undermining of the Constitution and that is what I would have told them.
You're absolutey correct about not including enough people....I thought after I posted the poll I should've added some other ways to vote and I tried to edit it but don't know how to edit a poll???
I would like your suggestion put in the poll of: "Every member of Congress who voted for it, along with Pres. Obama AND every gov't lackey who played a role in drafting, as well as every single lobbyist who pushed for this legislation are all traitors" or something similar. I think that's probably too long to put in the poll.....but it sure covers all the idiot traitors!
If tech guy or someone knows how to edit a poll, please include something in the poll that covers Ky's suggestion. Thanks.
RE: The NDAA written in secret by Senators McCain and Levin - Mark777 - 04-01-2012 01:49 AM
Also, voters need to take into consideration that this bill was I think 2000 pages long and therefore too long for our benevolent leaders in congress to read. They needed to vote on it to find out what was in it!
Does this sound familiar! Oh yeah, that's right, the idiot Nancy Pelosi said the exact same thing with another great "historical" piece of legislation that needed to be voted on so they could find out what's in it. That would be obama's fantastically popular health care law.
What the HE double toothpicks is going on here....none of the idiots in congress no longer have time to read stuff before voting on it???? I think it's far more sinister than that and goes much deeper!
Again, does our nation need outside enemies when we have such benevolent leaders over us?
RE: The NDAA written in secret by Senators McCain and Levin - Dudesome - 04-01-2012 02:48 AM
I voted being screwed up. How can you call someone to be a traitor, when in reality that someone was put there with one specific goal that he is fulfilling for the powers that be?
It's like saying that the movie sucks, because the actors didn't provide the storyline you expected to see....
Really, Mark, stop buying the media and the whole kabuki theatre crap. Think wider. There is a global plan.
Because in that case you can call a whole bunch of people including the voters to be traitors as well. I mean cmon. How much blame do you want to put on consequences, avoiding the cause?
RE: The NDAA written in secret by Senators McCain and Levin - Chronic - 04-01-2012 06:42 AM
I too think this poll is short on answers. Should have added: Every member of Congress, the president, cabinet, zars, etc.. They're all a bunch of deadbeats not worth their keep, not limited to NDAA or whatever it is they think their doing. They lie, cheat and steel from the system they control and all lack the fortitude to do the right thing. Put'em all on minimum wage, cut their benefits, put them on the bread line and if they start doing the right thing (simply follow the constitution, stop their insider trading, stop taking bribes and kickbacks, decharter the Federal Reserve, The huge power grabbing, come up with a realistic budget plan, get rid of all the nonsense laws that are destroying us from within, etc. etc. etc.) for the country and at that point we could consider paying them more. Till then throw the bums out.
RE: The NDAA written in secret by Senators McCain and Levin - Mark777 - 04-01-2012 09:42 AM
(04-01-2012 02:48 AM)Dudesome Wrote: I voted being screwed up. How can you call someone to be a traitor, when in reality that someone was put there with one specific goal that he is fulfilling for the powers that be?
It's like saying that the movie sucks, because the actors didn't provide the storyline you expected to see....
Really, Mark, stop buying the media and the whole kabuki theatre crap. Think wider. There is a global plan.
Because in that case you can call a whole bunch of people including the voters to be traitors as well. I mean cmon. How much blame do you want to put on consequences, avoiding the cause?
You've GOT to be kidding...."a global plan"? Cmon...get real man! What a ridiculous idea! You've got to be the only one thinking at such a high level.
RE: The NDAA written in secret by Senators McCain and Levin - Chronic - 04-01-2012 10:31 AM
(04-01-2012 09:42 AM)Mark777 Wrote:(04-01-2012 02:48 AM)Dudesome Wrote: I voted being screwed up. How can you call someone to be a traitor, when in reality that someone was put there with one specific goal that he is fulfilling for the powers that be?
It's like saying that the movie sucks, because the actors didn't provide the storyline you expected to see....
Really, Mark, stop buying the media and the whole kabuki theatre crap. Think wider. There is a global plan.
Because in that case you can call a whole bunch of people including the voters to be traitors as well. I mean cmon. How much blame do you want to put on consequences, avoiding the cause?
You've GOT to be kidding...."a global plan"? Cmon...get real man! What a ridiculous idea! You've got to be the only one thinking at such a high level.
Are you two guys Brothers?
RE: The NDAA written in secret by Senators McCain and Levin - Mark777 - 04-01-2012 10:54 AM
(04-01-2012 10:31 AM)Chronic Wrote:(04-01-2012 09:42 AM)Mark777 Wrote:(04-01-2012 02:48 AM)Dudesome Wrote: I voted being screwed up. How can you call someone to be a traitor, when in reality that someone was put there with one specific goal that he is fulfilling for the powers that be?
It's like saying that the movie sucks, because the actors didn't provide the storyline you expected to see....
Really, Mark, stop buying the media and the whole kabuki theatre crap. Think wider. There is a global plan.
Because in that case you can call a whole bunch of people including the voters to be traitors as well. I mean cmon. How much blame do you want to put on consequences, avoiding the cause?
You've GOT to be kidding...."a global plan"? Cmon...get real man! What a ridiculous idea! You've got to be the only one thinking at such a high level.
Are you two guys Brothers?
NOPE. But, I'm embarrassed to say that we are all related if you go back far enough.
RE: The NDAA written in secret by Senators McCain and Levin - Chronic - 04-01-2012 11:00 AM
(04-01-2012 10:54 AM)Mark777 Wrote:(04-01-2012 10:31 AM)Chronic Wrote:(04-01-2012 09:42 AM)Mark777 Wrote:(04-01-2012 02:48 AM)Dudesome Wrote: I voted being screwed up. How can you call someone to be a traitor, when in reality that someone was put there with one specific goal that he is fulfilling for the powers that be?
It's like saying that the movie sucks, because the actors didn't provide the storyline you expected to see....
Really, Mark, stop buying the media and the whole kabuki theatre crap. Think wider. There is a global plan.
Because in that case you can call a whole bunch of people including the voters to be traitors as well. I mean cmon. How much blame do you want to put on consequences, avoiding the cause?
You've GOT to be kidding...."a global plan"? Cmon...get real man! What a ridiculous idea! You've got to be the only one thinking at such a high level.
Are you two guys Brothers?
NOPE. But, I'm embarrassed to say that we are all related if you go back far enough.
LOL ... Ya got a good point there...
RE: The NDAA written in secret by Senators McCain and Levin - Dudesome - 04-01-2012 11:52 AM
Just answer me this then, Mark:
Do you indeed believe that politicians make the decisions?
RE: The NDAA written in secret by Senators McCain and Levin - KYnyts - 04-01-2012 11:59 AM
(04-01-2012 01:49 AM)Mark777 Wrote: Also, voters need to take into consideration that this bill was I think 2000 pages long and therefore too long for our benevolent leaders in congress to read. They needed to vote on it to find out what was in it!
Does this sound familiar! Oh yeah, that's right, the idiot Nancy Pelosi said the exact same thing with another great "historical" piece of legislation that needed to be voted on so they could find out what's in it. That would be obama's fantastically popular health care law.
What the HE double toothpicks is going on here....none of the idiots in congress no longer have time to read stuff before voting on it???? I think it's far more sinister than that and goes much deeper!
Again, does our nation need outside enemies when we have such benevolent leaders over us?
Most of the NDAA is good legislation. There are only a few parts of it that need to be repealed, including Sec. 1021 & 1022. No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. We just need the unconstitutional aspects repealed, imo.
RE: The NDAA written in secret by Senators McCain and Levin - Mark777 - 04-01-2012 12:04 PM
(04-01-2012 11:59 AM)KYnyts Wrote:(04-01-2012 01:49 AM)Mark777 Wrote: Also, voters need to take into consideration that this bill was I think 2000 pages long and therefore too long for our benevolent leaders in congress to read. They needed to vote on it to find out what was in it!
Does this sound familiar! Oh yeah, that's right, the idiot Nancy Pelosi said the exact same thing with another great "historical" piece of legislation that needed to be voted on so they could find out what's in it. That would be obama's fantastically popular health care law.
What the HE double toothpicks is going on here....none of the idiots in congress no longer have time to read stuff before voting on it???? I think it's far more sinister than that and goes much deeper!
Again, does our nation need outside enemies when we have such benevolent leaders over us?
Most of the NDAA is good legislation. There are only a few parts of it that need to be repealed, including Sec. 1021 & 1022. No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. We just need the unconstitutional aspects repealed, imo.
Did you actually read the monstrosity? You should be in congress!
RE: The NDAA written in secret by Senators McCain and Levin - KYnyts - 04-01-2012 12:10 PM
(04-01-2012 02:48 AM)Dudesome Wrote: I voted being screwed up. How can you call someone to be a traitor, when in reality that someone was put there with one specific goal that he is fulfilling for the powers that be?
It's like saying that the movie sucks, because the actors didn't provide the storyline you expected to see....
Really, Mark, stop buying the media and the whole kabuki theatre crap. Think wider. There is a global plan.
Because in that case you can call a whole bunch of people including the voters to be traitors as well. I mean cmon. How much blame do you want to put on consequences, avoiding the cause?
I do consider the people electing these guys to have some responsibility in this. If you are willing to turn a blind eye or vote for the lesser of two evils (or worse, don't even bother researching the positions these guys have taken) then YOU are just as culpable as they are for the situation we find ourselves in. Obama fooled a lot of folks (I wasn't one of them, but the guy I voted for turned out to be just as bad or maybe even worse). Never again. Today, there are no excuses. We know the players and who is funding them. All of the information is out there for anyone who takes the time to see it.
I am incredibly empathetic towards others, and more often than not am willing to give just about anyone the benefit of the doubt and listen to their side of things. However, I have already decided if the S really does HTF and someone asks me for help, I will have one question for them. Who did you vote for in November of 2012? My resources are very limited, so I will be focusing those limited resources on those who tried to effectuate real change. We are at a point where excuses aren't going to work anymore. That's where I stand.
RE: The NDAA written in secret by Senators McCain and Levin - KYnyts - 04-01-2012 12:16 PM
(04-01-2012 12:04 PM)Mark777 Wrote:(04-01-2012 11:59 AM)KYnyts Wrote:(04-01-2012 01:49 AM)Mark777 Wrote: Also, voters need to take into consideration that this bill was I think 2000 pages long and therefore too long for our benevolent leaders in congress to read. They needed to vote on it to find out what was in it!
Does this sound familiar! Oh yeah, that's right, the idiot Nancy Pelosi said the exact same thing with another great "historical" piece of legislation that needed to be voted on so they could find out what's in it. That would be obama's fantastically popular health care law.
What the HE double toothpicks is going on here....none of the idiots in congress no longer have time to read stuff before voting on it???? I think it's far more sinister than that and goes much deeper!
Again, does our nation need outside enemies when we have such benevolent leaders over us?
Most of the NDAA is good legislation. There are only a few parts of it that need to be repealed, including Sec. 1021 & 1022. No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. We just need the unconstitutional aspects repealed, imo.
Did you actually read the monstrosity? You should be in congress!
Yes, actually, but before thinking "wow" I should confess that I earn a living focusing primarily on legal research and writing. I would slit my own throat before I would run for Congress. I loathe politics and the only reason I'm so political is because this is no time to shirk one's obligations. We are ALL obligated to pay attention, and believe me when I say, I'm pretty disgusted with myself for allowing my personal loathing of all things political to be an excuse for keeping my head buried in the sand until we reached this point of impending doom. Yep, I fess up to my role in this mess, but no longer.
RE: The NDAA written in secret by Senators McCain and Levin - Mark777 - 04-01-2012 12:19 PM
(04-01-2012 11:52 AM)Dudesome Wrote: Just answer me this then, Mark:
Do you indeed believe that politicians make the decisions?
Hmmmm, lemme see. I do believe everyone has choices.
Therefore, if politicians abrogate their sworn duty to uphold the constitution and vote based on who gives them the most money....that makes them nothing but two bit swindlers.
If they abrogate because of fear of not being re-elected or because someone else with LOTS of influence for some reason over them tells them to vote against what they know they shouldn't...that makes them cowards.
If they vote for any reason YEA for anything that the Constitution very clearly forbids....that makes them--here's that word again--TRAITORS!
So I believe we have a bunch of people in government who have choices like everyone else to make...but most of them are a bunch of two bit swindlers, cowards, and/or traitors.
To answer your question succinctly...no, I don't think all politicians make their own decisions all the time for all the above reasons.
RE: The NDAA written in secret by Senators McCain and Levin - Mark777 - 04-01-2012 12:30 PM
(04-01-2012 12:10 PM)KYnyts Wrote:(04-01-2012 02:48 AM)Dudesome Wrote: I voted being screwed up. How can you call someone to be a traitor, when in reality that someone was put there with one specific goal that he is fulfilling for the powers that be?
It's like saying that the movie sucks, because the actors didn't provide the storyline you expected to see....
Really, Mark, stop buying the media and the whole kabuki theatre crap. Think wider. There is a global plan.
Because in that case you can call a whole bunch of people including the voters to be traitors as well. I mean cmon. How much blame do you want to put on consequences, avoiding the cause?
I do consider the people electing these guys to have some responsibility in this. If you are willing to turn a blind eye or vote for the lesser of two evils (or worse, don't even bother researching the positions these guys have taken) then YOU are just as culpable as they are for the situation we find ourselves in. Obama fooled a lot of folks (I wasn't one of them, but the guy I voted for turned out to be just as bad or maybe even worse). Never again. Today, there are no excuses. We know the players and who is funding them. All of the information is out there for anyone who takes the time to see it.
I am incredibly empathetic towards others, and more often than not am willing to give just about anyone the benefit of the doubt and listen to their side of things. However, I have already decided if the S really does HTF and someone asks me for help, I will have one question for them. Who did you vote for in November of 2012? My resources are very limited, so I will be focusing those limited resources on those who tried to effectuate real change. We are at a point where excuses aren't going to work anymore. That's where I stand.
I wasn't fooled either....but like you I also voted for the guy who turned out to be just as bad or worse! I don't really think worse though....that would be an awfully hard feat to accomplish! Something else to consider though, we really didn't have any good choices the last number of elections did we? There are much better candidates out there than any of the current candidates that are Republicans but are not running. It's really disgusting to see the obvious very low character and intelligence of some number of those in congress...not to mention the current resident of the White House!
Now I'm finding that I'm not really a Republican anymore...but a Libertarian....Go Ron Paul....I'm really sick of the Republicans because they haven't done any good since Reagan. Incidently, I've heard it said that todays Republicans are the same as the Democrats a generation ago and the Democrats are not really Democrats but the party of Socialists/Marxists/Fascists....both parties have degraded over time. Maybe Ron Paul comes closest to what a Republican was a generation ago?
RE: The NDAA written in secret by Senators McCain and Levin - Dudesome - 04-01-2012 05:08 PM
Repuublicans\democrats... are you serious¿? Well I guess we are either from different planets or from different realms of exsistance. The latter being more probable.
RE: The NDAA written in secret by Senators McCain and Levin - Mark777 - 04-01-2012 05:29 PM
(04-01-2012 05:08 PM)Dudesome Wrote: Repuublicans\democrats... are you serious¿? Well I guess we are either from different planets or from different realms of exsistance. The latter being more probable.
Dude, you are REALLY far out man!
