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Lets be a little bit more objective with Dr. Ron Paul here:

-We all know JFK got shot.

-We all know RP is very popular and yet is alive

-Many know that RP is with Illuminati

-Many know that NWO always controls both sides so no matter which candidate wins - NWO always wins

-We all know that RP can't save US from the inevitable collapse...


What are your thoughts about this guys?

Can Ron Paul eventually make things even worse?

Lets face it, from the perspective of NWO's plans(stated here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones )
nobody wants to see a huge population in US.

Now I am not a conspiracy theorist. I don't think that believing in NWO makes you that. If it does, then you can call me a lunatic. Not that I care.

Yet many facts show that US population is not beneficial for anyone and the fascism that is going on there right now proves that.

So what do you guys think?

Does any of the given arguments hold any weight at all?

Again lets be objective and not zombie-like creatures believing in anything we are told.

We wouldn't be buying silver in the first place if we were that, right? =D

Prrof that Ron Paul is with the Illuminati

Yeah.. what is all this stuff about RP being with the Illuminati? Proof or puff. Also, no links to GLP as a source please.

If I get fooled by RP then he is the ultimate deceiver and I give up. Private island anyone?!!

(03-06-2012 01:54 PM)Honey Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah.. what is all this stuff about RP being with the Illuminati? Proof or puff. Also, no links to GLP as a source please.

If I get fooled by RP then he is the ultimate deceiver and I give up. Private island anyone?!!

+1. If you link something from GLP, saying RP is Illuminati, than I think a 24 hour sanity ban should be but in place

If RP has fooled all of us, for 20+ years now, I think we all need to press the reset button, because we obviously couldn't tell what is right or wrong.

I say we give him a chance to see if he'll do what he says.

Face it, theres nothing to lose by giving RP a bite at the apple.... the whole barrel is rotten to the core anyway so whats to worry about ?

RP is the only one that I have actually wanted to vote for in the last 15 years (or actually EVER!). I could see that everyone else who is running could be "in on it" but not Ron. I just truly don't get that at all from him and at this point I am trusting him as there just is no one else to trust. He will make some changes for sure and if he makes the right ones... then it will or could be rather difficult for a while as the adjustments that need to take place (like entitlements, etc...) happen. On the otherhand, if we don't get him in, we continue towards certain annahilation as a free country. period.

My concern for Ron honey is that people don't have the staying power and will to suck up the pain thats required and ol RP would get tagged with the blame for all of it. face it whoever is holding the baby when it gets really sick will as likely get the blame.

Id rather see RP in after the whole thing has collapsed like it needs to and build anew but hes too old to wait that long so come on RP do what needs to be done and history will judge him as the one who had the conviction and will to start or attempt to show the way forward.

All it takes is one good man to change the world, I think RP is the only man capable of putting the breaks on the trainwreck coming. It will probably still hit but with luck itll be going slower and people will at least be expecting it and prepared better than they are now.

My other concern is if he were to get in and do whats required he might just end up like JFK

Victor..

I see your point and would agree that he will get the blame, but what are the options?

do you Let O win (or anyone else for that matter) and wait for the STHF and then hope and pray that there would still be freedoms enough to have an election and vote in RP? I agree he is too old.. (but maybe Rand..). This is a huge risk and it may be too late at that point.

I would also agree that if Ron does get in there, that he must have a death wish because there are so many people in power that would NOT LIKE IT ONE BIT.

What are you suggesting as an alternative? Your thoughts?

I don't have an alternative and i don't believe Rand is ready yet.

The way I see it is RP is the ONLY choice and has a chance to show the way forward. When you get older the chances to stamp your name on history becomes less but your more sure of yourself and RP is under no illusions of what he is facing, is prepared and knows better than anyone else what that means, he is also far less open to bribery and corruption having been there and seen it all around forever. If he hasn't been bought by now its unlikely itll happen in the future, unless family is threatened of course. I believe RP is a true patriot more than many give him credit for and is indeed prepared to die for his country no less than the forces that contribute to his cause, they understand him I think along with his conviction and courage. He is literally putting his life on the line here and knows the risk he's taking.

So... let RP do what he needs to do I say, one man really can change a nation.... Gandhi took on the British Empire and won mostly because he was at the right place, the right time and most of all the people were really wanting and ready for change along with accepting the price that was required to do so... I hope the US is at that point or at least enough of them.

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Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when my fear is gone I will turn and face fear's path, and only silver will remain. A storm is coming, our storm, and when it arrives it will shake their universe

Frank Herbert ( kinda )

I agree and I am ready to vote for him even if I have to write in his name. He is our only hope at this point and I am sure that he is aware of the challenges that he faces. I am afraid that this may be all conjecture as I don't think that he will win. I hate to say that and I will vote for him anyway and I HOPE I am WRONG...

(03-05-2012 09:01 PM)Dudesome Wrote: [ -> ]Lets be a little bit more objective with Dr. Ron Paul here:

-We all know JFK got shot.

-We all know RP is very popular and yet is alive

-Many know that RP is with Illuminati

-Many know that NWO always controls both sides so no matter which candidate wins - NWO always wins

-We all know that RP can't save US from the inevitable collapse...


What are your thoughts about this guys?

Can Ron Paul eventually make things even worse?

Lets face it, from the perspective of NWO's plans(stated here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones )
nobody wants to see a huge population in US.

Now I am not a conspiracy theorist. I don't think that believing in NWO makes you that. If it does, then you can call me a lunatic. Not that I care.

Yet many facts show that US population is not beneficial for anyone and the fascism that is going on there right now proves that.

So what do you guys think?

Does any of the given arguments hold any weight at all?

Again lets be objective and not zombie-like creatures believing in anything we are told.

We wouldn't be buying silver in the first place if we were that, right? =D

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Your missing nothing good Honey trust me

Great a propaganda mix Vid. What bothers me about stuff like this is the crap that spouts .....backwards talking utter trash and worthy only of a school playground and nutjob paranoids.

I cannot stress how dangerous this kind of thing is to the real conspiracy's out there it helps to discredit and have been and are ignored by the public because they get lumped in with freakshows like this.

Thanks Victor.. Say hi to Victoria for me!

Hi agsb.. good to see you on here also!

Will do Honey

BTW thats a regular freemason handshake, not everyone in the masons is illuminati tho.

Hi Honey, good to see you here, too.

(03-06-2012 09:36 PM)victor kruger Wrote: [ -> ]Will do Honey

BTW thats a regular freemason handshake, not everyone in the masons is illuminati tho.

It's true that lower level Freemasons aren't a part of the 'Illuminati". Is a United States Congressman and Presidential contender a low level Mason? He denies he's a Mason at all yet he gives masonic handshakes to other Masons. As far as I know, Masons don't do the Masonic handshake thing with non-Masons. I don't know where I come down on this but he also flashes the el cornuto sign. What's up with that? Was he in Texas when he did it?

(03-06-2012 09:48 PM)agsilverbear Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-06-2012 09:36 PM)victor kruger Wrote: [ -> ]Will do Honey

BTW thats a regular freemason handshake, not everyone in the masons is illuminati tho.

It's true that lower level Freemasons aren't a part of the 'Illuminati". Is a United States Congressman and Presidential contender a low level Mason? He denies he's a Mason at all yet he gives masonic handshakes to other Masons. As far as I know, Masons don't do the Masonic handshake thing with non-Masons. I don't know where I come down on this but he also flashes the el cornuto sign. What's up with that? Was he in Texas when he did it?

I have no idea what level of Mason RP is or if at all.Not wishing to go into it too much but freemasonry is pretty much everywhere you look and members the same.

As an example.

You will find all kinds of alarmists and conspiracy theorists claiming that they know how to spot a Freemason. Something about pressing the thumb into the centre of the back of the others hand.... ?

You cannot identify a man as being a Mason solely based on how he shakes someone's hand. A Mason is also supposed to be identified by his habits.

If you're really interested in spotting a Mason, here's what to look for:

He believes in a sumpreme being (God)
He is most trustworthy
He is honourable
He holds a high and strict moral character
He supports justice
He has sound judgment
He does not prejudge people based on their religious or political views
He actively practises tolerance
He has to be a man of mature age
He has no criminal background
He is a friend and a brother amongst peers

Is the POPE a Mason?



Speaking only my country.

There are about 330,000 Freemasons in England who belong to one or more of 8000 Lodges and that doesn't include the rest of the UK just England. Every member has the opportunity to take office in his Lodge and eventually to become its Master for a period of one year. Thats a lot of master masons,

The point is its likely at only above the 33rd or 3rd level depending on the type of Masonry would you begin to rub shoulders with anyone "special" normal lodge Masons dont even get into the lower bracket nor is a Mason handshake anything special in itself, in fact plenty use it who are not practising Masons I do know that.

The el cornuto sign is another common hand signal used all over the place, it means nothing to those not religious but I believe RP is supposed to be no ? can't answer you that one im afraid.

I have studied the masons quite a bit for a very good reason, although im no expert I am convinced 99% of these members are normal people, really they are. And then there is the 1% of whom I also have a problem with.

Keep an open mind and remember the lie is different on every level

PS if RP ever takes part in a Bilderberg meeting or CFR or The Trilateral Commission then i'll be concerned.

agsb.. I can't watch the video cause the link doesn't work and I don't know what the handshake thing is... I know some people that are "masons" in the much lower "do-gooder" variety, but they don't have a clue. What is the "el cornto sign"? can you link me to the info? You can PM me also if you want... J

I think it's too late already. If RP got a chance they would just blame him for the collapse. He can only be the scapegoat at this point.

Re: "el cornuto" sign.

I suppose everyone who attended the University of Texas is illuminati also then. Here, that's known as "hook 'em horns." The mascot is a Texas longhorn.

pops

(03-07-2012 12:04 AM)pops Wrote: [ -> ]Re: "el cornuto" sign.

I suppose everyone who attended the University of Texas is illuminati also then. Here, that's known as "hook 'em horns." The mascot is a Texas longhorn.

pops

Makes sense! Thanks for that..

:dodgy:Yo Dude...Get a grip.