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That's it, I'm going on a juice fast. No solids until I lose weight. I've been eating way way too much junk food the last 7 months and now I've gone and gained almost 30 pounds! My normal weight is 125-130 and I just stepped on the scale and was crushing it at 153!

This will be my first proper juice fast. I've never gone without solids completely.
(05-02-2012 10:30 AM)Mojofabulous Wrote: [ -> ]Really? None of you find it awesome that ironman and batman both juice?? I thought that was super interesting that filmmakers would include that in to our modern day superhero movies.

Sorry Mojo... That IS fascinating! tee heeHeart
(03-03-2012 12:33 PM).9999 Wrote: [ -> ]I have a Vitamix.

I have a Vitamix for certain things but I also have an Omega 1000 that I have have for 20 years, no I'm not exaggarating, only have had to buy a new blade once which was like $20.00 and the paper filters which you get 200 for $10.00. It makes perfect carrot juice, apple juice, etc.
Juicing sounds like it would be good to maintain health in a stressful situation. Just wondering if there are any juicers that work without electricity. Like a days or weeks long power outage.
Well, this thread got me inspired! Our juicer (a 15 year old Moulinex) sits on the top shelf in a cupboard- rarely used. It's out now and being used at least once a day. Still amazed at how much pulp is left over - but that just goes to the compost heap for our garden - so I don't consider it waste. I don't have a set recipe - depends on what's available and most affordable at the stores. Garlic, ginger, apple, carrots, beets, kale, broccoli, - it's all good.
(05-05-2012 02:08 PM)dragonfly5 Wrote: [ -> ]Well, this thread got me inspired! Our juicer (a 15 year old Moulinex) sits on the top shelf in a cupboard- rarely used. It's out now and being used at least once a day. Still amazed at how much pulp is left over - but that just goes to the compost heap for our garden - so I don't consider it waste. I don't have a set recipe - depends on what's available and most affordable at the stores. Garlic, ginger, apple, carrots, beets, kale, broccoli, - it's all good.

If the pulp is relatively damp and you keep this up, I'd recommend investing in a better juicer. The omega 1000 is a fan favorite and it gets, apparently, most of the juice out of the pulp. There is also a good line of breville(sp?) juicers, it's a centrifigal but it works so fast there is basically zero heat involved. You won't get quite as much juice out of the pulp, but you're juicing will be done FAST. I'd stay away from the norwalk...just based on our personal horror story. We're going back to the breville, it was a great juicer.
(05-05-2012 01:42 PM)Lysander2012 Wrote: [ -> ]Juicing sounds like it would be good to maintain health in a stressful situation. Just wondering if there are any juicers that work without electricity. Like a days or weeks long power outage.

There might be a gas powered one but I'm not sure how safe or healthy that would be....your best bet would be to get a generator as a backup in case of lost power. There's no way you could get enough juice using some sort of hand crank mechanism. It would be a TON of work for not much juice. You could spend all day, literally ALL day, juicing with that sort of juicer.

As for a way to maintain health, I don't think there's any healthier way to consume food. It's pure nutrients and water with some natural sugar coming from live foods. You tell me a healthier way to eat/drink and I'll consider it.
Well, I started my juice fast on wednesday. It's not a PURE juice fast as I am eating a little fruits and vegetables. Maybe 2 apples and 2 carrots a day + juice. I was pegging at 153 pounds exactly when I started. At 149.1 now.

My normal weight is 125-130

The first day was torment as every time I saw food or anything related to food the thought instantly popped in to my head "oh time to eat!" It was awful. I also constantly felt hungry and had a headache all day. Second day was easy, no problems. Third day was easy as well, though I did get VERY tempted by a cooked yellow rice/broccoli/cauliflower/chicken dish. I even filled a bowl half full and was going to get a spoon then stopped myself and dumped it back in the pan. Today, no issues yet.
(05-05-2012 02:15 PM)Mojofabulous Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-05-2012 01:42 PM)Lysander2012 Wrote: [ -> ]Juicing sounds like it would be good to maintain health in a stressful situation. Just wondering if there are any juicers that work without electricity. Like a days or weeks long power outage.

There might be a gas powered one but I'm not sure how safe or healthy that would be....your best bet would be to get a generator as a backup in case of lost power. There's no way you could get enough juice using some sort of hand crank mechanism. It would be a TON of work for not much juice. You could spend all day, literally ALL day, juicing with that sort of juicer.

As for a way to maintain health, I don't think there's any healthier way to consume food. It's pure nutrients and water with some natural sugar coming from live foods. You tell me a healthier way to eat/drink and I'll consider it.

Good to know about the juicing option. Just wondering something else. What about fiber? Isn't that important for a healthy digestion? How would the juicing effect someone who has a blood sugar problem?
Or is that something the juicing remedies?
Here's a pretty simple explanation of juicing and fiber. Short answer is, yes, fiber is important and you shouldn't skip fiber forever.

http://diaryofanutritionist.com/2012/03/...and-fiber/

That is why I eat a couple apples and carrots a day, even if I am on a juice fast. Plus it helps keep my stomach feeling full(helps being the emphasis word). But I haven't seen anyone prove that going without fiber for a week or two is going to harm you.

In fact, if you're really interested, watch fat sick and nearly dead. That guy went on just juicing for months and had absolutely fantastic results and all his actions were monitored by doctors who signed off on his diet.

Last little tidbit. Fiber has to be digested by the body. Juice does not. If you have a juice with no fiber in it, it pretty much just gets absorbed immediately in to your system. Consuming fiber with the juices actually slows down that process of absorption and burns off some of the energy you'd otherwise receive. That is why most people recommend drinking juice on an empty stomach and without solid food.
Could be wrong here but I thought with juicing you are still getting some fiber-just not the type that you get from eating whole veggies. I think some of the fiber is also within the juice (think of it as finer fiber as opposed to coarser fiber.
You do have to watch your sugars when juicing as well. Beets and sweet potatoes have a lot of sugars in them so I usually only add a half or quarter of a beet to my mix.
depends on the juicer. There are some that remove virtually all the fiber. Most juicers you're gonna get some.
147.2 lb after 7 days. Just under 5 pounds. zero exercise. Another 20 lb to go..

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(05-05-2012 08:34 PM)Mojofabulous Wrote: [ -> ]Here's a pretty simple explanation of juicing and fiber. Short answer is, yes, fiber is important and you shouldn't skip fiber forever.

http://diaryofanutritionist.com/2012/03/...and-fiber/

That is why I eat a couple apples and carrots a day, even if I am on a juice fast. Plus it helps keep my stomach feeling full(helps being the emphasis word). But I haven't seen anyone prove that going without fiber for a week or two is going to harm you.

In fact, if you're really interested, watch fat sick and nearly dead. That guy went on just juicing for months and had absolutely fantastic results and all his actions were monitored by doctors who signed off on his diet.

Last little tidbit. Fiber has to be digested by the body. Juice does not. If you have a juice with no fiber in it, it pretty much just gets absorbed immediately in to your system. Consuming fiber with the juices actually slows down that process of absorption and burns off some of the energy you'd otherwise receive. That is why most people recommend drinking juice on an empty stomach and without solid food.
Mojo, John has also started eating an apple and an orange and a handful of walnuts, one time some cooked veggies, and one time popcorn (with Mrs. Dash and a no-cholesterol butter sprinkle, maybe not the healthiest but it was only once). He doesn't want his digestive system to completely shut down.

Thanks again for starting this thread. You and a nurse at the hospital are the main people who brought juicing to our attention, and we both now agree that it is the way to go for people who are in a health crisis. It's also very good for people who are not feeling as healthy as they ought to, or who have any weight to lose.
No prob. I think everyone should juice some as a daily routine, it's just so darn good for you.
Okay... I am officially in the market for a good juicer... What is the best.???

I have an office full of 4 girls that also want to have some in the mornings...so I need industrial strengh...

What should I get?
I encourage you to carefully read this and other resources before choosing your juicer, honey.

One of the most important considerations you need to make is, how much time do you want to spend making juice every week? Because what juicer you get depends greatly on that. This was an important consideration I didn't make when we decided to try the norwalk over the breville we had been using. Suddenly without realizing what I had done, I had turned a daily routine that lasted around 30 minutes in to a routine that lasted 90 minutes. Keep in mind that anything using filter bags and a press is going to take MUCH longer just due the process it uses. Clean up time will also be much more intensive. You will get virtually zero pulp and the juice will be superior, but you're investing more time in making the juice. So if you are making more than a quart a day, I would advice not using a juicer like that, you will regret buying the juicer you did.

A centrifugal juicer needs to be very powerful and well designed if you are going to be doing any significant amount of juicing. One reason is that if the blades don't grind up the produce(especially leafy greens) fast enough you will start generating a lot of heat which harms the juice and makes it spoil faster. A second reason is that centrifugal juicers don't extract as much juice, so you want one that is very well made to maximize the amount of juice you are extracting from the pulp. Buying tons of produce isn't cheap and wasting it is even worse.

Another very important consideration that almost no one new to juicing thinks about is the size of what I call the feeding tube(the part you stick the produce in). The bigger it is, the less cutting you have to do to make whatever it is fit in there to juice it. Anyone who says this isn't a big deal is wrong or doesn't have to make the quantity of juice I do every week. Again, it's a matter of time. The three members of my household consume at least 4 quarts of juice a day. Not having to cut cucumbers in half or quarters and apples in to 3 pieces is A REALLY DAMN BIG DEAL.

An alternative to centrifugal juicers are masticating or similar juicers. These, in various ways, grind and press the produce without centrifugal motion. This creates less heat and, depending on the juicer, usually yields more juice and a superior quality juice. For example, our old norwalk(which I hated almost from the word go despite it being an amazing juicer in general) yielded about 10-15% more juice than our breville(which I loved). Which goes to show that juice yield isn't everything. Many act like it is, but it's just not.

A very popular line of this type of juicer is the omega juicers. An example is here:
http://www.amazon.com/Omega-J8006-Nutrit...843&sr=8-1

Something that seems to be a trend I've noticed with these type of juicers is that the feeding tubes are MUCH smaller. For example, this one I linked(which is VERY highly rated) has a feeding tube of only 1.5 inches vs the 3.25 I am used to on my breville. That's small enough that even large carrots would need to be cut in to quarters first! However, you are going to get a better juice and probably a better yield from this juicer than mine. Just be prepared to spend more time actually making it.

We used this breville below for months and were happy with it and have recently gone back to it after our norwalk juicer fiasco. We got sucked in to the idea of the norwalk being way more efficient at extracting juice. And it is. We just failed to realize it would take 3x more time and labor to PRODUCE the juice! Add on to that getting stuck with a super expensive machine that broke and you have a recipe for nightmare. This juicer comes with a clear pitcher with a lid that isn't shown in the picture. The pitcher fits around the spout that the juicer is expelled from.

http://www.brevilleusa.com/beverages/jui...essor.html

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Keep in mind that juicing has become extremely popular of late and you might have to wait a while to get the one you want. If you decide you like the breville my family is back to using, you can find it here:
http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/...%20copy-_-

If these prices seem high to you or you are at all uncertain whether you will juice over the long run, consistently, I encourage you to grab a cheap $80 juicer and use it for a few weeks. Heck, you might even be able to return it for a refund within 30 days, no questions ask. Just see your local retailers return policy!
Btw, you could cut off $100 from that breville juicer's cost by downgrading to the version that just juices. The one I linked juices and blends for smoothes. However, by downgrading you are going to lose .25 inches on the feeding tube and it only has a 2 speed motor instead of the 5 speed like ours. There might be other advantages/disadvantages that I am not aware of.
I've dropped from 153 to 143. I'm eating solid foods again. No sweets or junk food. No exercise. Still drinking about half my calories in juice.
(06-08-2012 01:04 PM)Mojofabulous Wrote: [ -> ]I've dropped from 153 to 143. I'm eating solid foods again. No sweets or junk food. No exercise. Still drinking about half my calories in juice.

Question for you, why did you drop 10lbs when you were at 153? 152 is a pretty average weight.
average for what height? It certainly isn't average for me. I'm 5 foot 6 inches. My normal weight is 130.
(06-08-2012 01:11 PM)Mojofabulous Wrote: [ -> ]average for what height? It certainly isn't average for me. I'm 5 foot 6 inches. My normal weight is 130.

I guess you are just a "smaller person".

At 6'2'' I wouldn't want to be less than ~220. Despite what Doctors tell me is healthy. They told me I want to be 170-180, which is way to thin.

http://www.disabled-world.com/artman/pub...ight.shtml

According to that site, your target for a 5'6" male is 148. Low=133 High = 163.
(06-08-2012 01:26 PM)kshymkiw Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2012 01:11 PM)Mojofabulous Wrote: [ -> ]average for what height? It certainly isn't average for me. I'm 5 foot 6 inches. My normal weight is 130.

I guess you are just a "smaller person".

At 6'2'' I wouldn't want to be less than ~220. Despite what Doctors tell me is healthy. They told me I want to be 170-180, which is way to thin.

http://www.disabled-world.com/artman/pub...ight.shtml

According to that site, your target for a 5'6" male is 148. Low=133 High = 163.

Problem is if I get in to the 140+ range, all the weight is stored in my chest and stomach. It makes me look really flabby. Now, if I actually exercised and had some decent muscle on me..my normal weight would probably be more like 140. But I don't, so it isn't!
(06-08-2012 01:59 PM)Mojofabulous Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2012 01:26 PM)kshymkiw Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2012 01:11 PM)Mojofabulous Wrote: [ -> ]average for what height? It certainly isn't average for me. I'm 5 foot 6 inches. My normal weight is 130.

I guess you are just a "smaller person".

At 6'2'' I wouldn't want to be less than ~220. Despite what Doctors tell me is healthy. They told me I want to be 170-180, which is way to thin.

http://www.disabled-world.com/artman/pub...ight.shtml

According to that site, your target for a 5'6" male is 148. Low=133 High = 163.

Problem is if I get in to the 140+ range, all the weight is stored in my chest and stomach. It makes me look really flabby. Now, if I actually exercised and had some decent muscle on me..my normal weight would probably be more like 140. But I don't, so it isn't!

haha. I know what you mean there.
Shimmy, I am also 6'2'' and I weigh 175 pounds but I am naturally slim, so whatever works for you.
The point I would like to make though is that juicing deprives you of fibre, so you should only do it in moderation.
Also, with no fibre in your diet your cholesterol levels shoot up, don't ask me why though.
And a 100% juice diet is simply not good for you if followed for more than a few days. Any longer than that and you should expect to see your hair falling out and your skin getting drier. This happens because you are not getting enough fatty acids. Also, expect to feel drained from a lack of carbohydrates. And use a straw when drinking these juices. Better for your teeth. This is just a fad isn't it?
Mojo, are you still around? Hope you are in good health dude.
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