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I personally believe David Icke has some very insightful things to say. His books go in depth into everything he has researched in his life. I especially like how he uses history and proof to back up his claims as often as he can.

One thing I am still unsure about is the whole reptilian thing. I bought his book: "Children of the Matrix" but I have not read it yet. I think I'm going to give it a read this summer before I make up my mind about this matter.

It really disturbs me how some people can completely make their minds up on some issues and make statements such as "That is not true" without even looking into them. I mean if people still just blindly believed the social conventions of the time they lived in, we would still be scared of falling off of the end of the earth!!

I have several of his books and have read them. 99% of what he has to say is informative, insightful and designed to make you think about things in a different way. Then he looks you in the face and says the one thing that is over the top. Reptile people. That 1% simply nullifies his whole package. the reaction is simply because he explains what he understands so outlandish everything else comes into question. Is he talking about a metaphoric set of values by the bankers or does he truly believe that one day on TV they are going to pull away the rubber mask of the human and show a real lizard /human cross.

I hope he is simply trying to describe lower brain function of the Reptilian part of the human brain that seems to be in control of those in government and banking. IE psychopathic cold blooded absolutely non-caring individuals.

The major flaw in most conspiracy theories is "somebody is in control" , when the reality is "nobody is in control" for the most part it is simply a system of passing the buck on. "it is not me, I only do what I'm told. I'm only doing my job. etc"

the sooner we as the general public get a grip on this concept the sooner we can turn around the total mess we are in. Change, one person at a time. we must start with the only person who will listen to this and that is our own self.

David Icke states, if we live in FEAR then we can only use the primitive parts of our brain.. the fight or flight. If we realize that FEAR does nothing to aid us and start looking at the world as how we would love to be treated. Expect to be treated. We need to ask the pointed questions Why or who authorized the unlawful actions take against us or worse taken actions against other using our name.

LAW is common law, Universal law, the laws people can live as a community with. Acts and Statues are Not LAW... if they were law they would be called law. Very often Acts and Statues are in contrary to law. Governments need Statues and Acts to control people to mind control them.. Government .. Goveramente to govern the mind/s.

Mankind needs to get off it's knees (ie begging for Governments to save them) To free their minds. To simply wake up and stop giving away their power of the masses to a few pathetic scared weaklings called leaders, kings, banker, priests.

The power is at the base of the pyramids not at the top. the base support the top not the other way around.
This is the part David Icke is only now starting to understand.


Namaste - I see the creative being that inside of you that is the mirror of myself looking back

I don't know all of what David Icke goes into detail on, but my perception of him is that he is spot on about nearly everything, and then he goes into reptiles. This seems to me to be a tactic to discredit the rest of the truth he is spreading so that people will say, "oh he believes in reptiles, he must be looney and that other stuff isn't true".

Kind of like how Michael Moore will use scraps of truth to lead people to false conclusions. Yeah, blame Bush for everything. Don't pay any attention to the secret society his family is a member of. Don't pay any attention to the people who print money out of thin air.

I know that Icke used to associate with J. Z. Knight near Mt. Rainier in Washington State. She would claim to channel Ramtha, some 10,000 year old spirit, and suckers would give her their life savings to live on her property safely inside her copper gates, because the reptiles don't like copper.

Hey, for all I know this stuff might be real, BUT anybody with an interest in waking people up and spreading the real truth would not align themselves with things that can't be proven. The fact that Icke associates with information that cannot be proven makes me think of him as a shill that is there to mislead people and cast doubt on the truth that he does speak.

I don't know about him being a shill, have you heard him speak about mass manipulation? He also talks about the debt system and the federal reserve. I think the fact that people let 1 small thing he says disprove the other 99% of things he says is completely ignorant. As you said, he's spot on about nearly everything, so people should just accept him for his rights and not his (wrongs.) & wrongs is in brackets because who are we to say that he is wrong. It's word against word, reptilians fully could be walking the earth & we are just being the ignorant ones saying it's not true. I rather read his book and find out what evidence he brings forth, and then make up my decision. As for now, I'm leaning more towards not believing it

(02-29-2012 02:17 AM)General Silver Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know all of what David Icke goes into detail on, but my perception of him is that he is spot on about nearly everything, and then he goes into reptiles. This seems to me to be a tactic to discredit the rest of the truth he is spreading so that people will say, "oh he believes in reptiles, he must be looney and that other stuff isn't true".

Kind of like how Michael Moore will use scraps of truth to lead people to false conclusions. Yeah, blame Bush for everything. Don't pay any attention to the secret society his family is a member of. Don't pay any attention to the people who print money out of thin air.

I know that Icke used to associate with J. Z. Knight near Mt. Rainier in Washington State. She would claim to channel Ramtha, some 10,000 year old spirit, and suckers would give her their life savings to live on her property safely inside her copper gates, because the reptiles don't like copper.

Hey, for all I know this stuff might be real, BUT anybody with an interest in waking people up and spreading the real truth would not align themselves with things that can't be proven. The fact that Icke associates with information that cannot be proven makes me think of him as a shill that is there to mislead people and cast doubt on the truth that he does speak.

The aliens thing is pretty wacky. Otherwise he's often spot on.

(03-02-2012 09:50 PM)brotherjohnf Wrote: [ -> ]The aliens thing is pretty wacky. Otherwise he's often spot on.

I agree, he is spot on with everything and then he blows his reputation up talking about aliens! Getting sheepeople to understand that the central banking system controls the world and enslave its people though debt is hard enough do you really have to throw shape shifter reptile aliens in ontop of it!

I've watched David Icke speak in a few documentaries and felt he was right on spot. Just this week I started following his blog posts on Twitter. So what is this reptilian lizard stuff you speak of? I hadn't heard anything like that, although I have passed over a few YouTube videos that have reptilian in the title or description.

(03-24-2012 09:03 AM)slow to learn Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-02-2012 09:50 PM)brotherjohnf Wrote: [ -> ]The aliens thing is pretty wacky. Otherwise he's often spot on.

I agree, he is spot on with everything and then he blows his reputation up talking about aliens! Getting sheepeople to understand that the central banking system controls the world and enslave its people though debt is hard enough do you really have to throw shape shifter reptile aliens in ontop of it!

Icke is learning the same as everyone, as you go you revise your understanding as you learn new things. The reptilian thing is far more complex than just saying reptiles are walking amongst us etc. I remember when he came out with it on a public chat show decades ago. It was explosive here but allowed him two choices, succumb to the masses opinions and let it destroy him or follow the path that became as a result open to him, free thinking, he chose the latter.

This is no different in a way than the real money community here being told we are all nut cases, but something keeps us on this path.

Yes we have a reptilian brain, all of us, what is Evil ? are there forces influencing people, are they benign or do you believe there are such things as bad spirits, the devil, ghosts, other dimensional beings, aliens ? whatever word you use none are human are they ?

Unless you subscribe to the belief Earth is the only place in the entire stellar universe and humanity being the only sentient being in trillions upon trillions of stars and infinite worlds you have a problem with the alien thing. It is mathematically impossible for there not to be life in abundance out there and all of it alien by definition, plus a large % will be vastly older than we are and also likely far more advanced. Similarly the same goes for dimensions, they know they exist since quantum physics has been proven and are likely limitless too. Put these together and virtually no scientist alive will dispute life is in other places. Reptiles among us or not it is no less inconceivable than many other things people believe yet cannot see. I'd rather not discount it but rather ask for the proof and until then stay undecided, no different than with the god theory.

There is much we do not understand and much we also probably misunderstand too. Along the way we make mistakes and put trust in those we later learn are false etc, this is how we learn. At times we think we know the truth and some stop looking further, believing that to be the be and end of all. These are the what I like to call traps in the matrix, there are endless traps along a never-ending path, Icke from time to time gets caught in these traps and dead ends but he persists in the main along the path and as a result is very perceptive and accurate about a lot as most here already know. No one is prefect and one idea does not invalidate another because it is on the fringe or sounds ridiculous...

On the whole i like Icke and he's far more on the button than most ive come across, hes no shill either and has dumped many along the way he originally thought were genuine only to find out later they weren't.

20 years ago no one believed him about anything, 10 years ago a few people started noticing he had been spot on about a lot, now hes in danger of being believed about everything and hes got untold people throwing ideas and information at him and if anything he's on overload, he'll work it out as long as he dosnt get caught on one of these traps and distracted from the path.

2003 easy to follow and you can compare where we are now and whats happened since then.

secrets of the matrix 1

secrets of the matrix 2

secrets of the matrix 3

If you have the time the next is his latest.

6 hrs split into 4 parts Done on a marathon talk in 2010, its not for those of a low attn span or inflexible in their thinking.

the lion sleeps no more I am not david icke

the lion sleeps no more. moon, life and control

the lion sleeps no more, the global agenda

The lion sleeps no more. truth vibrations

Id recommend to watch it and keep a very open mind and not be narrow thinking that your bubble is all that there is to it... Do not watch it if you are happy in your own little world, it will either offend or challenge your thinking of everything around you.

This guy sounds interesting. I've never heard of him; but, I will try to look into what he's said/written regarding reptilians and whatever else I find interesting and try to keep an open mind.

There are Christian authors who have written books and made videos about weird things such as UFO's and the beings flying them, the unexplained surgical killings of cattle who are left in the field with no blood, crop circles, human abductions to space craft to be examined and sexually violated, other dimensions, etc...

These authors believe the beings involved are the Nephillim who are the offspring of human woman and the fallen angels.... The Bible says things about these beings...they were the root cause for why God had to start over with Noah and his three sons....and they've never given up....make no mistake about this....they have NO ultruistic intentions for mankind or God's plans!

I don't know if this guy is a Christian or not but will look into what he's said/written.

It wasn't my intention to speak about all the above. It's just that it seems to me that it all sounds like the same kind of stuff this guy is talking about...not sure though. Definitely not trying to hijack your subject!

(03-02-2012 09:50 PM)brotherjohnf Wrote: [ -> ]The aliens thing is pretty wacky. Otherwise he's often spot on.

I agree. I don't value his work on the "Lizard Theory" thingy....but it is nice to see he has a grasp on how the Central Planners have constructed a system of "Controlled Chaos"....and that the booms and busts are planned in advance and engineered...for the benefit of the few banking cartel insiders. If people could grasp this concept....they would find the "opt out" path to be a more free existence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...exErasuGRM

Become your own bank..."Stash n Stockpile Weapons of Stack Construction!"

(03-24-2012 12:03 PM)victor kruger Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-24-2012 09:03 AM)slow to learn Wrote: [ -> ][quote='brotherjohnf' pid='2372' dateline='1330743044']
The aliens thing is pretty wacky. Otherwise he's often spot on.

secrets of the matrix 1

secrets of the matrix 2

secrets of the matrix 3

If you have the time the next is his latest.

6 hrs split into 4 parts Done on a marathon talk in 2010, its not for those of a low attn span or inflexible in their thinking.

the lion sleeps no more I am not david icke

the lion sleeps no more. moon, life and control

the lion sleeps no more, the global agenda

The lion sleeps no more. truth vibrations

Id recommend to watch it and keep a very open mind and not be narrow thinking that your bubble is all that there is to it... Do not watch it if you are happy in your own little world, it will either offend or challenge your thinking of everything around you.

Thanks for the links Victor.. I am about 1/2 way through the Matrix part 1. Very good so far and he is very entertaining to watch! I do plan on watching all of them....

(03-24-2012 12:03 PM)victor kruger Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-24-2012 09:03 AM)slow to learn Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-02-2012 09:50 PM)brotherjohnf Wrote: [ -> ]The aliens thing is pretty wacky. Otherwise he's often spot on.

I agree, he is spot on with everything and then he blows his reputation up talking about aliens! Getting sheepeople to understand that the central banking system controls the world and enslave its people though debt is hard enough do you really have to throw shape shifter reptile aliens in ontop of it!

Icke is learning the same as everyone, as you go you revise your understanding as you learn new things. The reptilian thing is far more complex than just saying reptiles are walking amongst us etc. I remember when he came out with it on a public chat show decades ago. It was explosive here but allowed him two choices, succumb to the masses opinions and let it destroy him or follow the path that became as a result open to him, free thinking, he chose the latter.

This is no different in a way than the real money community here being told we are all nut cases, but something keeps us on this path.

Yes we have a reptilian brain, all of us, what is Evil ? are there forces influencing people, are they benign or do you believe there are such things as bad spirits, the devil, ghosts, other dimensional beings, aliens ? whatever word you use none are human are they ?

Unless you subscribe to the belief Earth is the only place in the entire stellar universe and humanity being the only sentient being in trillions upon trillions of stars and infinite worlds you have a problem with the alien thing. It is mathematically impossible for there not to be life in abundance out there and all of it alien by definition, plus a large % will be vastly older than we are and also likely far more advanced. Similarly the same goes for dimensions, they know they exist since quantum physics has been proven and are likely limitless too. Put these together and virtually no scientist alive will dispute life is in other places. Reptiles among us or not it is no less inconceivable than many other things people believe yet cannot see. I'd rather not discount it but rather ask for the proof and until then stay undecided, no different than with the god theory.

There is much we do not understand and much we also probably misunderstand too. Along the way we make mistakes and put trust in those we later learn are false etc, this is how we learn. At times we think we know the truth and some stop looking further, believing that to be the be and end of all. These are the what I like to call traps in the matrix, there are endless traps along a never-ending path, Icke from time to time gets caught in these traps and dead ends but he persists in the main along the path and as a result is very perceptive and accurate about a lot as most here already know. No one is prefect and one idea does not invalidate another because it is on the fringe or sounds ridiculous...

On the whole i like Icke and he's far more on the button than most ive come across, hes no shill either and has dumped many along the way he originally thought were genuine only to find out later they weren't.

20 years ago no one believed him about anything, 10 years ago a few people started noticing he had been spot on about a lot, now hes in danger of being believed about everything and hes got untold people throwing ideas and information at him and if anything he's on overload, he'll work it out as long as he dosnt get caught on one of these traps and distracted from the path.

2003 easy to follow and you can compare where we are now and whats happened since then.

secrets of the matrix 1

secrets of the matrix 2

secrets of the matrix 3

If you have the time the next is his latest.

6 hrs split into 4 parts Done on a marathon talk in 2010, its not for those of a low attn span or inflexible in their thinking.

the lion sleeps no more I am not david icke

the lion sleeps no more. moon, life and control

the lion sleeps no more, the global agenda

The lion sleeps no more. truth vibrations

Id recommend to watch it and keep a very open mind and not be narrow thinking that your bubble is all that there is to it... Do not watch it if you are happy in your own little world, it will either offend or challenge your thinking of everything around you.

That pretty much nails it. Definitely can appreciate this answer.

Ironic, that folks would expect the truth on this subject from the Government & Media - a subject that would rattle the very foundations of humanity at its core - when they have historically lied about nigh every other important topic.

People forget to consider whenever they made a judgement on any topic, especially the UFO issue, who did they listen to in order to come up with that conclusion/opinion? Most of the time, the answer to this will be either the main stream media, or a friend, who ironically enough was subjected to the mainstream media, which are just proxies for various agendas.

Like they say, when you're on the side of the majority, one needs to question that in a very crucial manner of why that is.

Have also noticed that the UFO topic is mostly ridiculed in the western nations. In Central America, The Caribbean, South America & even China the phenomena is talked about way more openly than here. In America, the topic of UFOs is taboo beyond belief, even within scores of people that say they are truthers.

Heck, the Chinese government finances the National Society of the Extraterrestrial Studies, which only allows people with PhDs in science that must also have several published works about UFOs. And about a third of all the members of this society are members of the Chinese Government as well.

Not only that, but there are many declassified documents that deal outright with this topic as well as many outstanding books for that matter.

There is a lot more information out there in respects to those 'topside'. People just have to know where to look.

Once people realize how much information there is on ETs, then getting around Icke's Reptilian subject is not that large of a jump. The issue now is that people first have to consider or know that UFOs/ETs could be real [which is almost impossible if you've never done any research into the subject], and then one can start pondering on whether the Reptilian topic he talks about has any substance to it.

In the end, we are all in charge of our realities and our lives. We just have to keep tabs on how we get the information we get on any given topic, and scrutinize that information relentlessly prior to taking it at face value only because the establishment says so.

i've never heard of the reptile people, sounds hard to swallow but i will give it a read. thanks for links

He used to be a sports presenter for the BBC , then he was son of god for a while then the lizard man...I would have stuck with the sports gig myself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiyrHZCksDM if this wont work search david ike son of god on youtube