There Were Giants In The Earth In Those Days...

[agsilverbear]

[Mark777]

Wow, about 4 hours of video. I'm interested but it will have to wait till tomorrow when I have more time....

Very interesting subject though! Scary too. I don't think we know even 10% of humanity's and earth's true history. Most of history has been lost or deliberately hidden or lied about by whoever for their own purposes.

[Chette]

I was looking at some pictures of Hulk Hogan in the late 70's this guy was huge. then by 1990's Hulk was dwarfed by some of the new players in the WWF One guy was head and shoulder taller than hulk and at least a half wider. The average height of a US NBA player today is 7 foot. Mormon Missionaries are taller every year.

Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. In Noah's day there were giants and so shall it be when the Lord returns.

[cosmyccowboy]

in the days of noah the fallen angels had came to earth and saw the daughters of adam and took them to wife! from their offspring came the giants! yes and as it was then so shall it be again!!! that is why the women ( and men!!) are instructed to keep a covering over their heads... not a physical cover but Christ!

[agsilverbear]

Quote:Luke 17:26And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 27They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. 28Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; 29But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Chette, I don't see that giants are in the context of this passage. The destruction of the earth by water and the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah by fire came suddenly and unawares on the people who were destroyed. I believe that is the context.

[Edit: I hope you can find a spare 154 minutes to watch this video. Gail Riplinger sells one of his books on her website. He's very good...]

[cowS grazinG]

they stray, we destroy them. water boarding them all, burned them all...next freeze them all

[agsilverbear]

(05-05-2012 11:27 AM)cowS grazinG Wrote:  they stray, we destroy them. water boarding them all, burned them all...next freeze them all

I deleted my response because I realized I have no idea what you are talking about, and I shouldn't try to guess or make assumptions, like Mojo's signature says!

[agsilverbear]

(05-04-2012 10:58 PM)Mark777 Wrote:  Wow, about 4 hours of video. I'm interested but it will have to wait till tomorrow when I have more time....

Very interesting subject though! Scary too. I don't think we know even 10% of humanity's and earth's true history. Most of history has been lost or deliberately hidden or lied about by whoever for their own purposes.

I hope you get a chance to watch it, Mark. I agree with you in that we would have no idea what was on the earth, and what the earth was like in ancient times, if not for the Bible. There are many accounts of giants in history, and a ridiculous amount of archaeological evidence from every continent in the world, that giants existed.

But there has been a concerted effort on the part of western governments and the science establishment to hide it because it does not fit with the religion of secular humanism that they promote but it does fit in with a Biblical worldview. So all evidence must be hidden away, and anyone who discusses it must be discredited.

Steve Quayle has a lot of information on giants on his website.

[SilverTemplePilot]

I only made it 50 minutes in, does he ever go into any justification for why there are no remaining bones or fossils for these giants?

[agsilverbear]

(05-05-2012 06:26 PM)SilverTemplePilot Wrote:  I only made it 50 minutes in, does he ever go into any justification for why there are no remaining bones or fossils for these giants?

STP, thank you for your interest! This video is not about the archaeological evidence, it's about what the Bible has to say about the topic.

If you dig into it I think you will find that there is both historical and archaeological evidence for this, as I stated in another post. Since I changed to an iMac I lost everything I had saved that I used to have, so I have to find it again. John was the one who found all the information a number of years ago. I'll see if I can find what I need and start a thread about evidence. It may take a few days since I'm busy planting my garden, etc.

[Chette]

(05-05-2012 11:24 AM)agsilverbear Wrote:  

Quote:Luke 17:26And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 27They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. 28Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; 29But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Chette, I don't see that giants are in the context of this passage. The destruction of the earth by water and the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah by fire came suddenly and unawares on the people who were destroyed. I believe that is the context.

[Edit: I hope you can find a spare 154 minutes to watch this video. Gail Riplinger sells one of his books on her website. He's very good...]

You will need to know the context of Noe by going to Genesis chapters 5-7. For Luke records what the Lord says it will be like when the Lord returns "as it was in the days of Noe,... to understand how it was in the days of Noe one needs to read Genesis 5-7. So with that context there were Giants in the land.

[agsilverbear]

(05-05-2012 07:10 PM)Chette Wrote:  

(05-05-2012 11:24 AM)agsilverbear Wrote:  

Quote:Luke 17:26And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 27They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. 28Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; 29But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Chette, I don't see that giants are in the context of this passage. The destruction of the earth by water and the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah by fire came suddenly and unawares on the people who were destroyed. I believe that is the context.

[Edit: I hope you can find a spare 154 minutes to watch this video. Gail Riplinger sells one of his books on her website. He's very good...]

You will need to know the context of Noe by going to Genesis chapters 5-7. For Luke records what the Lord says it will be like when the Lord returns "as it was in the days of Noe,... to understand how it was in the days of Noe one needs to read Genesis 5-7. So with that context there were Giants in the land.

In the days of Noah the earth had not yet been broken up into continents. In the days of Noah the atmosphere was a vapor canopy. In the days of Noah dinosaurs walked the earth alongside man. Following your argument, the earth should revert back to it's complete pre-flood state before the second coming of the Lord.

[Chette]

Quote:In the days of Noah the earth had not yet been broken up into continents.

Gen 10:25 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one [was] Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name [was] Joktan. 1Chron 1:19 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of the one was Peleg; because in his days the earth was divided: and his brother's name was Joktan. so it would be left up to which of two understandings or interpretations of these scriptures you follow, 1) the land mass or Supercontinent broke up or 2) that the land was divided among the children of men.

Quote:In the days of Noah the atmosphere was a vapor canopy.

This one is not all that clear in Scripture. Those that argue because rain is not described as ever happening until chapter six, tend to overlook what it says in Gen 2:5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. While some would want us to believe that it did not rain until the flood forget that Adam and Cain both tilled the ground. And if God be true then he caused it to rain when man tilled the ground. Gen 4:1, 2 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. I think it is safe to believe there was rain before the flood. If there was a vapor canopy the stars would not be to visible and even the moon and sun would have been obscured and we have no record of that being the case especially seeing God made the sun, moon and stars to be Ge 1:14, 15 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. sounds like the canopy would have blocked some of the light they were to give upon the earth.

Quote:In the days of Noah dinosaurs walked the earth alongside man.

I fully agree he walked with dinosaurs even though we have no scripture. But there are some dinosaurs today. I will try and find some links but look up living dinosaurs.

Quote:Following your argument, the earth should revert back to it's complete pre-flood state before the second coming of the Lord.

No, if I follow the line of thinking in Luke then I know that what the Lord Jesus was referring too was moral degeneration of man and a total abstinence of God in their lives. Every man doing what was right in his own eye. Here is a verse that would agree with my understanding of Luke 17 Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. . .Gen 6:11, 12 ¶ The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. I wouldn't think that a complete reversal to a pre-flood existence was what the Lord had in mind. But man will have corrupted himself and violence will fill the earth (just look at the news), and if the giants are the offspring of the devils that would mean that those devils would be back on the earth. And I believe that as the day approaches God is driving all those devils that were throughout the universe back to the earth for judgement. so in these last days we se giants appearing and they are famous.

Some of "Christ Covenant Keepers" believe no one including angels will go to hell until after the millennial kingdom. This taken from their web site 7). According to the Bible, there is no such a place as “hell,” “purgatory,” or any other place in Christ’s universe where, today, dead men, women, and children are tormented forever. Hell fire occurs at the resurrection of the wicked, which takes place after the millennium ends. At that time, the hell fire will consume the wicked, which includes Satan and his evil angels, and die. That death, for many, will be their second death. (See Revelation 20:13, 14; Malachi 4: 1-3; Matthew 25:41.)

Most of that is debatable by the preserved scriptures as found in the AV, but they overlook the fact that the beast and the false prophet had been cast into the lake of fire at the coming of Christ. I also believe that the fallen angels all but Satan were cast into the lake of fire as well because there is no mention of them being done so in chapter 20. Maybe not at the time of Christ return to set up his Kingdom but during that millennial time the church will be judging them and they upon their guilt will be sent to hell 1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?[/] [b]Rev 19:20, 21 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

So it would seem two things the Lord was referring too was 1) that men were doing what they wanted and it was evil continually, and 2) there were devils will be on the earth in these last days. They always have been here but they will have themselves well known among the men of this world, and are and have been taking wives of the daughters of men and we are beginning to see these giants once again, they are men of renown, famous in the sports arenas of the world like the WWF, American football and Basketball, not unlike Goliath. As God forces the legions of the devil to the earth for the judgement during the time of Jacob's Trouble it will get worse.

[agsilverbear]

Chette, it doesn't look like we are even on the same chapter, let alone the same page on this one. Looks like we will just have to agree to disagree.

[cowS grazinG]

someone did thrown in the giant's bones into the rock crushers.

pinky sky was much better than the Monday Blue sky.

the sky did fell

@ Chette, I like your post #13, its like re-living the old world again )

[omygSilver]

you may want to view this video before you say there were no giant human like creatures on the planet. (2.00 mark on the video)







it may throw a monkey wrench into evolution

[Mark777]

(05-07-2012 05:29 PM)omygSilver Wrote:  you may want to view this video before you say there were no giant human like creatures on the planet. (2.00 mark on the video)







it may throw a monkey wrench into evolution

I know there were giants because the Bible says there were giants. But as in the video, I've seen plenty of pictures of giant skeletons...I own Quales Giants book.....but there's NO documentation and NO skeletons on display anywhere that I know of....

In the youtube video, it shows a skeleton lying on it's back in some kind of open square with a bunch of people looking at it. You would think if this was real that there would be a world wide news story on this and it would be on tv and in documentaries, etc. In this case, where is this stuff? Where are all the skeletons that have been found and pictures taken of them? As it is, all we have are a bunch of pictures and no skeletons in museums.

I know of some odd shaped heads in some private museums in south america and that is a start but again, why is there NO world wide news or some scientist writing a book on those heads...you would think there would be a book on those giant heads. It's frustrating to me. I know there were giants alive but all the evidence disappears it seems and even the evidence that is available like those weird giant heads there's nothing that I know of as far as documention or a book on them.

I wonder who is in possession of all the skeletons that have been found? I believe those individuals are suppressing the truth for their own wicked purposes!

[Chette]

(05-07-2012 08:29 PM)Mark777 Wrote:  

(05-07-2012 05:29 PM)omygSilver Wrote:  you may want to view this video before you say there were no giant human like creatures on the planet. (2.00 mark on the video)







it may throw a monkey wrench into evolution

I know there were giants because the Bible says there were giants. But as in the video, I've seen plenty of pictures of giant skeletons...I own Quales Giants book.....but there's NO documentation and NO skeletons on display anywhere that I know of....

In the youtube video, it shows a skeleton lying on it's back in some kind of open square with a bunch of people looking at it. You would think if this was real that there would be a world wide news story on this and it would be on tv and in documentaries, etc. In this case, where is this stuff? Where are all the skeletons that have been found and pictures taken of them? As it is, all we have are a bunch of pictures and no skeletons in museums.

I know of some odd shaped heads in some private museums in south america and that is a start but again, why is there NO world wide news or some scientist writing a book on those heads...you would think there would be a book on those giant heads. It's frustrating to me. I know there were giants alive but all the evidence disappears it seems and even the evidence that is available like those weird giant heads there's nothing that I know of as far as documention or a book on them.

I wonder who is in possession of all the skeletons that have been found? I believe those individuals are suppressing the truth for their own wicked purposes!

If they are real then science would have to admit the Bible is correct and therefore they would be left to accept other truths of the bible as fact.

some of these videos can be manufactured by over lapping. film two guys digging in a green field. that is a natural green back drop that digital film makers use to put one thing over another for specail effect. they can use blue or green. Then they can superimpose them over a normal grave and the skeleton looks like a giant when it is not.

[agsilverbear]

I believe that the Smithsonian Institute has been instrumental in suppressing archaeological evidence of giants for over a century. The websites that we read years ago are either not there anymore or the search engines have hidden them. I can no longer find the information we read several years ago. There was a site that was like an encyclopedia of giants with basically all historical and archaeological evidence but it's gone (or at least I can't find it).

Famous explorers have written accounts of seeing and hearing native accounts of giants. This used to be common knowledge. The existence of giants is much more accepted in other parts of the world, such as the middle east because people have gone to the excavation sites and seen their remains with their own eyes. It is westerners, especially Americans, who don't know about this because the information is not allowed to be disseminated. Even westerners who have figured out that their governments are lying to them about just about everything including economic, political, medical, matters are content to put their implicit trust in the 'scientists' who work for them and the quasi-governmental entities like Smithsonian.

TPTB can't allow any evidence that there were giants living on earth in the public domain because their evolutionary-based scientistic edifice would fall, the scientist-priests would have to recant their life's work, and all textbooks would have to be rewritten.

Below is a link to an article about Diffusionism vs. Isolationism, written by an apparent evolutionist, but I believe it sheds some light on the role of the Smithsonian Institute in hiding archaeological evidence about discoveries that don't fit their paradigm from the public.

"Archaeological Coverups"

[agsilverbear]

Here's a link to Steve Quayle's site Genesis 6 GIANTS.

[Silver07]

An easy answer to why truth is hidden from the masses:

You can't enslave a bible reading and believing people. That's why the next step is to break up truth through religion, science, media, government, etc. It's all deception setup by Satan and his kingdom.

Think of the movie The Matrix and you'll understand how the deception is setup with the masses unaware.

[omygSilver]

two more links
http://www.crystalinks.com/incanskulls.html

[img] http://greaterancestors.com/wp-content/u...-skull.jpg[/img] {actual skull image}

http://greaterancestors.com/the-pyatigorsk-skull/


The reason behind the deformation phenomenon is still unknown. It is hard to say whether the methods worked effectively or not since nobody ever conducted scientific experiments regarding the binding of the infants’ heads.

[Mark777]

Do these people qualify as giants in the biblical sense or just as very tall normal people who don't have any genes from the biblical giants?

They certainly are not as tall as the giant skeletons that have been found and gone missing.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdRs18POl...re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyCEz7Poh...re=related

[omygSilver]

2. The Paradox of Large Dinosaurs

Applying Science to Understanding Large Dinosaurs
http://www.dinosaurtheory.com/big_dinosaur.html

If it was possible to have biblical Giant Humanoids before the flood, and the fossil evidence of giant Dinosaurs before that. The questing that is begging is.."was the planet the same size or mass that it is today?"

The link above points out the problem that the large lizards would not be able to even stand let alone hunt on a planet with the gravitation pull that the earth has today. If the planet was smaller in size spun at a faster rate a cold blooded creature could survive the shortened with greater ease. It could reach heights in stature much greater than it could today. If the planet was smaller, humans could grow taller. if the earth spun faster around the sun this being could live longer.

to bring this back onto topic of this forum....

"if to big to fail was true... Dinosaurs would be walking around today"

Things change.. they are always changing if you can adapt to the change, you survive if not you go extinct..

[Chette]

Reptiles grow their entire life span. I raised Jackson Chameleons my first one was 6 inches long and before I released him two years later he measured 24 inches. I fed him only grasshoppers, butterflies and other insects he would have gotten in the wild where I found him.


Now before the Flood man live up to 977 year of age not quite 1,000 if he was lucky. As from what we could see men were living shorter and shorter lives after the fall not longer and longer as my SDA friends tried to teach. No lets consider the Chameleon and how large it would have grown it is had lived for 1000 years. At the growth rate above in paragraph one, "How big would it be at that growth rate? Somewhere around 1550 feet? Now that would be a little outrageously large and no fossils records to support that one ever grew that bis were ever found.

So lets allow for less food as it passed a certain size. it could no longer climb trees after it hit 10 foot (many lizards cannot climb trees after hitting three foot in length) so it will adjust to the ground feet fattening and flattening. it could no longer sustain the diet it had before that increased its growth and so its metablosim slows and it eats less and mover slower, its tongue would no longer be able to stretch to the lengths it would as a smaller creator because it would weigh to much and so it would loose its ability to catch food with it and therefore would have to eat plants and scavenge for dead animals to eat.

It would grow outward not just in length and so if we allow for all the variables this creature could be the size or so of a Volkswagen beetle, the size and shape possibly of what scientist have fossil evidence of called a Triceratops after about 900 years of life. There are lots of reptiles that did not make it on board the ark with Noah and as such died out. Plus if they did make it they would never live long enough to grow to those sizes ever again.