Questions relating to expatriating and countries to seriously consider, etc. II

[victor kruger]

(03-21-2012 07:25 PM)cosmyccowboy Wrote:  

(03-21-2012 07:07 PM)Mark777 Wrote:  We don't have White Tail deer up here, we have black tail. They taste like crap, because they eat algae and crap when all the vegitation is frozen over. Elk/Reindeer is very tasty.

So what do meeses , elk, and reindeer eat when all the vegetation is frozen over that they taste better than black tail deer? I know that white tail deer that eats corn tastes better than one that eats shit from the woods....very wild and different taste.

Can a hunter hunt for moose, elk, and reindeer in the same year? How much are licenses? What is the success rate of hunting for each?

Am I missing any other animal besides grizzly? I don't think I'd be interested in eating bear meat. I don't like pork and bear meat is very similar to pork. I love ham but eat turkey ham because it tastes very close to pork ham.

i myself have not partakenof the unclean meats in 25 years!

LOL you don't like pork but love and eat turkey ham because it tastes like pork ?? Mark What the heck ?

As for unclean ? well I usually wash and cook it first... yeesh you guys are a riot lol

PS had bear meat in Romania last year and it like everything else thats hard to describe it tasted like chicken ....

[Mark777]

(03-21-2012 08:32 PM)victor kruger Wrote:  

(03-21-2012 07:25 PM)cosmyccowboy Wrote:  

(03-21-2012 07:07 PM)Mark777 Wrote:  We don't have White Tail deer up here, we have black tail. They taste like crap, because they eat algae and crap when all the vegitation is frozen over. Elk/Reindeer is very tasty.

So what do meeses , elk, and reindeer eat when all the vegetation is frozen over that they taste better than black tail deer? I know that white tail deer that eats corn tastes better than one that eats shit from the woods....very wild and different taste.

Can a hunter hunt for moose, elk, and reindeer in the same year? How much are licenses? What is the success rate of hunting for each?

Am I missing any other animal besides grizzly? I don't think I'd be interested in eating bear meat. I don't like pork and bear meat is very similar to pork. I love ham but eat turkey ham because it tastes very close to pork ham.

i myself have not partakenof the unclean meats in 25 years!

LOL you don't like pork but love and eat turkey ham because it tastes like pork ?? Mark What the heck ?

As for unclean ? well I usually wash and cook it first... yeesh you guys are a riot lol

PS had bear meat in Romania last year and it like everything else thats hard to describe it tasted like chicken ....

You said something else tasted like chicken recently Victor. LOL

I don't like the taste of pork besides ham...hate pork chops, etc....so I just eat turkey ham.... I knew after I wrote the sentence that it sounded funny....I was too lazy to rewrite it so you wouldn't nail me on it! LOL

I love lobster too!

[victor kruger]

lol yea i got the bit about lobster.. prefer crab myself ...but love shellfish, oysters and the like.

but but but .... turkey ham that tastes like pork ham might as well be pork ham no ? and theres loads of different pork hams you can get but havnt seen much variety of turkey ham... then again turkey isnt big here so....

Ok so you mean regular pork.... how about bacon ? you must like bacon surely

And yes ive tried a lot of stuff thats not really worth trying to describe so I say chicken... that includes crocodile, snake, bear, squirrel, Guinea pig, monitor lizard, emu, rat, coypu, camel, monkey and dog. (don't blame me for the dog or monkey I was in a situation at the time )

[Mark777]

(03-21-2012 09:33 PM)victor kruger Wrote:  lol yea i got the bit about lobster.. prefer crab myself ...but love shellfish, oysters and the like.

but but but .... turkey ham that tastes like pork ham might as well be pork ham no ? and theres loads of different pork hams you can get but havnt seen much variety of turkey ham... then again turkey isnt big here so....

Ok so you mean regular pork.... how about bacon ? you must like bacon surely

Again, can't stand pork except for ham---so again in this case I either eat turkey bacon or beef bacon. mmmmmmmmmmmm BTW: I love crab too....never ate shellfish or oysters....tried octopus once out of a can when I was young and dumb and got sick!!!! So now it's hard to get me to eat new stuff....I stick to what I know I like for the most part. LOL

[victor kruger]

turkey bacon ? lol ohhh mannn.. beef jerky you mean ? yumm

[Mark777]

(03-21-2012 09:41 PM)victor kruger Wrote:  turkey bacon ? lol ohhh mannn.. beef jerky you mean ? yumm

Oh yeah, turkey bacon is goooooood. I tried eating some pork bacon at work a number of years ago that someone made....it was the most awful tasting bacon I've EVER had. At the time I couldn't fathom how the people there were going for seconds or thirds of that shit! LOL

I love beef jerky too. And we have a local butcher shop here that makes beef bacon......mmmmmmmmmmmm

[victor kruger]

Hmmm beef bacon I have yet to try.. ill put it on the bucket list

[agsilverbear]

(03-21-2012 04:47 PM)Mark777 Wrote:  I just went to the post office and got a passport application. It's $135....$110 payable to the US dept of State, and $25 payable to USPS. I have to get a certified copy of my birth certificate...going to order at least 5...that's going to set me back another $32...$20 for the first one and $3 for each additional one.

I'm ordering multiple copies so I'm prepared at least with the certifide birth certificates in case I want to apply for a passport in another country or become a citizen of another country.

Here's a very interesting article from Simon Black on 4 easily obtainable passports....doesn't include the Dominican Republic though...does include Singapore, Brazil, Israel, and one other that escapes me just now...oh, it's Belgium.

http://www.sovereignman.com/expat/four-v...an-obtain/

Mark -good job! We just have to renew, I believe we can do that online. Just need pictures.

[agsilverbear]

(03-21-2012 04:54 PM)kshymkiw Wrote:  

(03-21-2012 04:49 PM)agsilverbear Wrote:  

(03-21-2012 03:40 PM)kshymkiw Wrote:  

(03-21-2012 03:32 PM)agsilverbear Wrote:  

(03-21-2012 10:18 AM)kshymkiw Wrote:  Looking at the article, I am not sure I have ever seen anyone denied entry into a country for small arrests. Obviously they try to keep truly evil people out. I personally know people who have Felony Drug Arrests who travel outside of the US on a weekly basis, with a US Passport.

I think the article I posted may have overstated the difficulty of getting a US passport with a criminal record, but conviction of some types of crimes may be grounds for denial. Basically, you are at their mercy. Obtaining a passport becomes a privilege, not a right. It's very complex, as are tax considerations. I read that before WWI most of the world, including America, there were no passports. People traveled freely except in places like the Soviet Union. The world was much freer then.

I can see that you have done a lot of research on these topics. Thanks for the interesting information. I can understand why you moved to Alaska. It seems like it could turn out to be a good alternative for those who want to live experience the most liberty possible for those who can't, or choose not to live abroad.

I would much rather live in a more moderate climate but Alaska could be a good alternative for many if the state continues on the path towards tyranny that it is on. Thanks for all the great info. Great information from Victor, too.

I could believe it would be more challenging. But in a true SHTF moment, do you think anyone is going to care about getting a passport? No, they are just going to sneak into Canada or Mexico (never thought I would say that).

You guys need to move to Alaska Weather is bogus, only plays with your mind. We got lots of good benefits.

Hmmm... You can hunt enough moose to feed an army. What other benefits do you have? There is land with lakes; John likes the idea of having his own lake, he just doesn't want it be be frozen.

Btw, it's 83 degrees outside right now.

He can Ice Fish if it is frozen Plus when it is frozen, it is like adding extra "land" to your property. It is thick enough to drive on, etc...

We have tons of benefits. You get paid to live here. Only state with a budget surplus. 3 Million Lakes that are 20 Acres or Larger, short flight to Hawaii (direct from Anchorage).

I couldn't begin to list all the benefits. And as you said, One Moose will average around 500 pounds of meat. Plus the fish. We get 35 Red Salmon this year, which will be prob. 4-6 months supply of Salmon for us, if smoked and stored properly.

It is 34 degrees outside right now

And while John doesn't listen to me, I told him to let you know we have some of the biggest vegetables in the world grown here. Due to the near 24 hours of sunlight in the Summer, your plants grow 24/7 for 3-5 straight months. Right now we are gaining 7 minutes of daylight every day. Sun is coming up around 815a and going down around 930p.

"Plus when it is frozen, it is like adding extra "land" to your property." That's a fail!

[Mark777]

(03-21-2012 09:33 PM)victor kruger Wrote:  lol yea i got the bit about lobster.. prefer crab myself ...but love shellfish, oysters and the like.

but but but .... turkey ham that tastes like pork ham might as well be pork ham no ? and theres loads of different pork hams you can get but havnt seen much variety of turkey ham... then again turkey isnt big here so....

Ok so you mean regular pork.... how about bacon ? you must like bacon surely

And yes ive tried a lot of stuff thats not really worth trying to describe so I say chicken... that includes crocodile, snake, bear, squirrel, Guinea pig, monitor lizard, emu, rat, coypu, camel, monkey and dog. (don't blame me for the dog or monkey I was in a situation at the time )

Wow Victor....you're a very wide ranging connoisseur. LOL

Now that you mention it....yes, you know where I'm going....mind if ask what the "situation" was?

[victor kruger]

(03-22-2012 01:26 AM)Mark777 Wrote:  Wow Victor....you're a very wide ranging connoisseur. LOL

Now that you mention it....yes, you know where I'm going....mind if ask what the "situation" was?

sigh* you had to ask. OK lol

Whilst in Cambodia I ended up staying with a small village. I'd gotten to know a lad from there whilst visiting Angkor Wat and wanting to visit other old Buddhist ruins still as yet mostly unexplored in the jungle, I was invited to stay and live in his village and family who also turned out to be the village head. So I did, I drank what they drank and ate what they ate, so when a monkey was caught thats what ended up on the menu that night, to do less or refuse would have been a serious insult to the family and also the entire village ... there wasn't a chance i'd do that to them... making excuses i wasn't hungry wouldn't have worked either i'd been out all day with them and we'd all eaten nothing...besides the head guys son who id originally befriended had told me a a pretty interesting story about insults and what they call face there a few months previous to my arrival. This village was pretty well known for no tolerance re disrespect and was one of the reasons I was invited to stay with the family in the first place over that incident so they could atone for it. I wasn't about to let them down in any way as i was their guest. Thats another a long story but an interesting one.Monkey btw wasn't anything to write home about, pretty tough and not much meat but ok with the local moonshine and chilli ....

The Dog incident is a little more interesting. Whilst in Hanoi, Vietnam I had gotten what might be termed as friendly with a guy called Nam the "Mafia bodyguard" local protection racket tough guy & entrepreneur we'll call him. I had been warned he was a very dangerous guy but important and respected by all the traders around there. I was respectful by never ignoring him when i passed his station and always offered him a cigarette ( a trick id been taught as a cheap icebreaker ) which maybe surprised him observing so many foreigners daily who just passed him by, oblivious to his "position" i don't know. He got curious at first and tried a few tricks to unsettle me maybe or amuse himself, such as inviting me to smoke their raw pipe tobacco or drink a glass or two of their moonshine, snake blood whiskey, play a game or two of i guess youd call it checkers etc even eating Balut one day to his amused surprise. None of this phased me and a respectful semi friendly relationship was formed. Anyway after a few weeks i was invited to go with him back to his home town for a few days, his boss had a problem that apparently I could assist with and would I help ? so I had two choices at that point .. agree and go along or refuse and insult not only him but his boss too. That was never going to happen so of course i went along. I don't know to this day if the welcome meal where i met his boss ( who turned out to be the local area army captain )which was in a dog restaurant ( yes they actually have dog restaurants ) was a test or what, but we spent all evening there and they must have ordered every thing on the menu ... all of it dog.

In the morning they took me to see the local monk who promptly decided I had viet linh hồn or was qua cuộc sống viet and that was that. I was asked right there and then to help his daughter Linh brush up on her English verbal skills and confidence for an interview in the capital in a months time, to fail would lose him and her face. Of course I was only too happy to oblige. As a result I spent a fantastic few weeks in the local top hotel everything free ( to pay would have offended, but im sure it cost them nothing anyway ) many enjoyable evenings and days there and shown places i doubt even now many westerners have seen. I also learned to ballroom dance, bizarre as it may seem lol

Linh btw got the job I later found out.

Later when I had to return to Vietnam to help sort out a bad situation for a friend, the favour was returned, something that would have never been possible without that relationship with Nam.

Dog btw im sorry to say tastes great.

[kshymkiw]

(03-21-2012 07:07 PM)Mark777 Wrote:  We don't have White Tail deer up here, we have black tail. They taste like crap, because they eat algae and crap when all the vegitation is frozen over. Elk/Reindeer is very tasty.

So what do meeses , elk, and reindeer eat when all the vegetation is frozen over that they taste better than black tail deer? I know that white tail deer that eats corn tastes better than one that eats shit from the woods....very wild and different taste.

Can a hunter hunt for moose, elk, and reindeer in the same year? How much are licenses? What is the success rate of hunting for each?

Am I missing any other animal besides grizzly? I don't think I'd be interested in eating bear meat. I don't like pork and bear meat is very similar to pork. I love ham but eat turkey ham because it tastes very close to pork ham.

Moose eat tree bark. Elk and Reindeer tend to stick to smaller plants that don't freeze over. You can hunt for all of them in a single year if you choose to.

License - Resident Hunting is $25/year and fishing is $24. You save $1 by purchasing a combo permit.

Tags - Grizzly = $25 Bull Musk Ox = $500 Cow Musk Ox = $25 (Resident Prices on all of these) Moose =- $25 Elk/Reindeer = $25 Black Bear = $25

Success rate is what you make of it. If you choose to go out for 1 or 2 days, you may not have a great success rate, unless you know of a great spot. Moose are pretty stupid animals, They walk up very close to you naturally.

Bear is not so great, they tend to eat anything they can, and hence taste like crap.

The Alaska Department of Fish and Game Website http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/ This is will answer 99% of all your game questions about Alaska.

[Mark777]

Victor. Wow...I don't think I'm going to be thinking of Cambodia or Vietnam as possibilities to move to anymore....their food is NOT what I want to look forward to eating. Dog restaurants? Oh man....that sounds horrible...don't they have regular more traditional food there like chickens and cows, etc?

ksh. Thanks a lot for all the great info...you even have me thinking about Alaska now! I sure didn't know about the great sized vegetables you can grow there.

Mind if I ask where in Alaska you chose to live and why?

Are all the great number of lakes up there that probably have never been fished loaded with fish? What kind of fish are generally in the land locked lakes?

[victor kruger]

(03-22-2012 11:29 AM)Mark777 Wrote:  don't they have regular more traditional food there like chickens and cows, etc?

lol that is regular and traditional. If they can catch they eat it. There hasnt been a chance for them to go traditional livestock farming in the last century thanks to the French occupation there and later of course the intrusion of the US. kinda slowed things up re progress for them.

Cows need good grazing grass & theres not much of that there. chickens yes, pork is very popular too as pigs will eat and digest anything, they have many uses. A large portion of the mainstay is sea or river food which is divine.

[kshymkiw]

(03-22-2012 11:29 AM)Mark777 Wrote:  ksh. Thanks a lot for all the great info...you even have me thinking about Alaska now! I sure didn't know about the great sized vegetables you can grow there.

Mind if I ask where in Alaska you chose to live and why?

Are all the great number of lakes up there that probably have never been fished loaded with fish? What kind of fish are generally in the land locked lakes?

I live in the Mat-Su Valley, mainly because I work in Anchorage, and need to show up to the office most days. So I need to live within an hour drive of Anchorage, and you can't move South of Anchorage really. I chose this area, because Anchorage is "just another city". The running joke here is "You can live in Anchorage, or you can live in Alaska"

http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adf...s.listfish

There is a list of fish, it is mixed though between Fresh/Salt/River/Lake. I know you can get Graylings, Char, Rockfish, and some others. I would assume these remote lakes have fish in them, but I can't confirm which ones do and don't.

[Mark777]

(03-22-2012 12:10 PM)victor kruger Wrote:  

(03-22-2012 11:29 AM)Mark777 Wrote:  don't they have regular more traditional food there like chickens and cows, etc?

lol that is regular and traditional. If they can catch they eat it. There hasnt been a chance for them to go traditional livestock farming in the last century thanks to the French occupation there and later of course the intrusion of the US. kinda slowed things up re progress for them.

Cows need good grazing grass & theres not much of that there. chickens yes, pork is very popular too as pigs will eat and digest anything, they have many uses. A large portion of the mainstay is sea or river food which is divine.

Ok. What do the other southeast asian nations eat that we've talked about; e.g., Thailand, Philipines, India, Korea. etc. lol Do they all have dog restaurants?

I've thought about Thailand the most and just had the philipines in the back of my mind. I hope that Thailand and the philipines eat more traditional food like chicken, beef, fish--not rough like carp, loaches, etc.--or at least have fish I lke available..lol and of course lobster, shrimp, and crab.

[victor kruger]

The eating of dog meat is not uncommon in the Philippines,Korea,Taiwan, China even Indonesia in places... India no it dosnt happen. Thailand the king likes dogs ( as pets ) so it dosn't happen much.

you dont see it in the west because of our love for the furry things and they arnt going to publicise it.

Thailand has the most western style living in the area for sure. The fish type are what they are for the climate, coldwater variety are much nicer imo than there.

[Mark777]

Here's a comparison of costs of various things:The US vs Chile vs Panama which I edited in word format to get comparisons side by side and included in the attachment below.

I did this for Uruguay too and found that Chile was cheaper so I did the comparison with the two countries I've been thinking about the most....it's an easy way of comparing costs in various countries.

The Dominican Republic and Alaska are still in the back of my mind too! I just don't have enough room with word to put them all on the same sheet.

Source: http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/com...ry2=Panama


  3-23-12 us vs chile and panama.doc (Size: 277 KB / Downloads: 3)

[Mark777]

Updated chart comparing prices of US vs Chile, Panama, Uruguay, Dominican Republic, Thailand, and Singapore. Then prices for Anchorage, AK; Appleton, WI; and Milwaukee, WI.

[Mark777]

Ok, I'm hooked...gotta try char fishing! First plane to Alaska.....

[kshymkiw]

(03-25-2012 10:13 PM)Mark777 Wrote:  Updated chart comparing prices of US vs Chile, Panama, Uruguay, Dominican Republic, Thailand, and Singapore. Then prices for Anchorage, AK; Appleton, WI; and Milwaukee, WI.

Where did you get some of those figures? The one I thought was way high was Electricity,gas,garbage.

I pay ~60 month for Electric and Gas, right now in the dead of winter. I pay $6/mnth for Trash.

Granted I also burn wood during the winter, which costs me about 200 per cord, but a cord can last 3-6 months.

[Mark777]

(03-26-2012 10:47 AM)kshymkiw Wrote:  

(03-25-2012 10:13 PM)Mark777 Wrote:  Updated chart comparing prices of US vs Chile, Panama, Uruguay, Dominican Republic, Thailand, and Singapore. Then prices for Anchorage, AK; Appleton, WI; and Milwaukee, WI.

Where did you get some of those figures? The one I thought was way high was Electricity,gas,garbage.

I pay ~60 month for Electric and Gas, right now in the dead of winter. I pay $6/mnth for Trash.

Granted I also burn wood during the winter, which costs me about 200 per cord, but a cord can last 3-6 months.

The source is numbeo.com....I have the source listed on the top of the document. The numbers come from that site and I can't verify the accuracy. However, I believe that site is just using straight costs for heating using electricity or gas and not using alternative methods of heating such as wood in their figures because probably a lot of areas in the world don't heat using wood...it's just a comparison I think of the most common methods of heating and the costs associated with them.

I wonder if you just used electricity or gas and not wood how close the cost estimate would be for Anchorage? That site doesn't have any other cities listed for Alaska or that would be interesting to look at too. I was hoping it had Juneau; but, it didn't.

Also, there is a difference between the US and say Appleton, WI....the US numbers I think are just the average costs based on the entire US and Appleton is more specific. Again, I can't say for sure that the numbers are accurate or to what degree. It's just one tool among many I'm looking at to sort thru the mess trying to get a good idea where I might want to move to in the future. It's not an exact science.

[kshymkiw]

(03-26-2012 12:57 PM)Mark777 Wrote:  

(03-26-2012 10:47 AM)kshymkiw Wrote:  

(03-25-2012 10:13 PM)Mark777 Wrote:  Updated chart comparing prices of US vs Chile, Panama, Uruguay, Dominican Republic, Thailand, and Singapore. Then prices for Anchorage, AK; Appleton, WI; and Milwaukee, WI.

Where did you get some of those figures? The one I thought was way high was Electricity,gas,garbage.

I pay ~60 month for Electric and Gas, right now in the dead of winter. I pay $6/mnth for Trash.

Granted I also burn wood during the winter, which costs me about 200 per cord, but a cord can last 3-6 months.

The source is numbeo.com....I have the source listed on the top of the document. The numbers come from that site and I can't verify the accuracy. However, I believe that site is just using straight costs for heating using electricity or gas and not using alternative methods of heating such as wood in their figures because probably a lot of areas in the world don't heat using wood...it's just a comparison I think of the most common methods of heating and the costs associated with them.

I wonder if you just used electricity or gas and not wood how close the cost estimate would be for Anchorage? That site doesn't have any other cities listed for Alaska or that would be interesting to look at too. I was hoping it had Juneau; but, it didn't.

Also, there is a difference between the US and say Appleton, WI....the US numbers I think are just the average costs based on the entire US and Appleton is more specific. Again, I can't say for sure that the numbers are accurate or to what degree. It's just one tool among many I'm looking at to sort thru the mess trying to get a good idea where I might want to move to in the future. It's not an exact science.

Sorry, didn't see the source, shame on me for not looking.

I can tell you when my heating bill comes in for March, I ran out of wood, early March, and have been exclusively on Gas. It also depends on how energy efficient your home is too. My house is 5*, and we usually keep the T-Stat at around 62-65 degrees.

Juneau is more expensive on electric, since it is all Hydro driven. Not very many people live in Juneau anyways, despite it being the state capital. It is landlocked, and not on the Road System in Alaska. Anchorage is generally the only place you can get numbers for AK. Villages, are often heated by Fuel Oil, which would skew those numbers, since Diesel in the bush is ~$10/gal.

I would agree, they don't take other sources, such as wood into consideration, but most houses up here will use wood as a primary in the winter.

[AgShaman]

(03-25-2012 10:13 PM)Mark777 Wrote:  Updated chart comparing prices of US vs Chile, Panama, Uruguay, Dominican Republic, Thailand, and Singapore. Then prices for Anchorage, AK; Appleton, WI; and Milwaukee, WI.

Thanks for providing the info.

Most of my free time is spent researching this subject. There's lots to ponder and digest before making a move.

A big criterion for me is my perceived "quality" of the location....ie. will I enjoy the climate, it's people, and the tax burdens? I hope to find a place to start a family....or if that's not in the cards, then to at least chase alot of good looking women (lol)....but mainly, settle down...have some kidlets and enjoy the family...be on hiatus from work and self reliant for some years and watch the kids grow. Hopefully I can find the right place. Starting a modest self sustaining business to support living somewhere else would be cool. I agree with you....seafood and fishing industry piques my curiosity....and owning/running a fishing boat sounds like simplistic fun to me. I come from a family of farmers and miners....so manual labor is not such a big deal and I'm in the same type of condition I was in during my time in the "Suck"....though years of playing in the mountains of Idaho and Montana have made the bones and joints "creak and pop" an awful lot.

I found this interview to be pretty good...and I think Erik T. is coming out with a book on the subject of finding your relocation paradise that suits you best. When I get together the proper questioning...I'll probably email him and pick his brain if he'll let me and see if he's visited more places than he covered in the interview.

http://www.financialsense.com/financial-...s-overseas

Become your own bank..."Stash n Stockpile Weapons of Stack Construction!"

[Mark777]

(03-26-2012 03:22 PM)AgShaman Wrote:  

(03-25-2012 10:13 PM)Mark777 Wrote:  Updated chart comparing prices of US vs Chile, Panama, Uruguay, Dominican Republic, Thailand, and Singapore. Then prices for Anchorage, AK; Appleton, WI; and Milwaukee, WI.

Thanks for providing the info.

Most of my free time is spent researching this subject. There's lots to ponder and digest before making a move.

A big criterion for me is my perceived "quality" of the location....ie. will I enjoy the climate, it's people, and the tax burdens? I hope to find a place to start a family....or if that's not in the cards, then to at least chase alot of good looking women (lol)....but mainly, settle down...have some kidlets and enjoy the family...be on hiatus from work and self reliant for some years and watch the kids grow. Hopefully I can find the right place. Starting a modest self sustaining business to support living somewhere else would be cool. I agree with you....seafood and fishing industry piques my curiosity....and owning/running a fishing boat sounds like simplistic fun to me. I come from a family of farmers and miners....so manual labor is not such a big deal and I'm in the same type of condition I was in during my time in the "Suck"....though years of playing in the mountains of Idaho and Montana have made the bones and joints "creak and pop" an awful lot.

I found this interview to be pretty good...and I think Erik T. is coming out with a book on the subject of finding your relocation paradise that suits you best. When I get together the proper questioning...I'll probably email him and pick his brain if he'll let me and see if he's visited more places than he covered in the interview.

http://www.financialsense.com/financial-...s-overseas

Become your own bank..."Stash n Stockpile Weapons of Stack Construction!"

Please post whatever you find out from any source here so we can all keep up to date with the latest! I think it would be great to have someone else who's researching this stuff to post what they've learned too. Thanks.