Please Take Part In My Poll!

[Chronic]

(04-19-2012 11:04 PM)SonofYAHWEH Wrote:  As I said just playing the part of devils advocate, don't attack me, look within.

Did i hit reply all? sorry, Put the devils advocate hat back on SonofYAHWEH.
I just talked to one of them and they said i pretty much got it right. He also told me that their only real job was to separate the people from their Money and if they could just have one world government, one world banking that they will accentually have their hands in your pants, something the IRS and the TSA already do today.

[Honey]

I voted Yes...

[johndvs]

i think another interesting twist to this would be to ask if the people whom voted yes -do you think the cartel (or whatever other name to call them) is just a group of men intending on bringing global government or is it biblical prophecy. i would have to go with the prophecy personally

[slow to learn]

This poll is turning out much as I expected! I suspected that even in a community as this that there would be doubters. Its pretty much 50 /50 now. I have come to the conclusion that the awakening has to come to each and every individual in its own time. And if the subject matter doesn't interest you it will take longer. Its like anything else unless you go looking for it you usually wont find it! I was surprised when talking to my banker that I have know for years, he is the VP of commercial loans of a small 6 branch bank. I had to explain to him how fractional banking worked and how money was created from debt! I explained how the member banks could create money from nothing as long as they had 10% of the money being created on deposit. Then I explained that the money created from nothing was used gain interest profits! People that are even in the industry dint even understand the process! He said yes you are right that is why banks that fail are taken over the FDIC assumes the task of selling/collecting the assets of the failed bank and settling its debts, including claims for deposits in excess of the insured limit. Then the bank is sold to a corporate bank! Now he talks to me about what happening and is starting to explore it for himself!

[SonofYAHWEH]

Okay.....so they have this end goal to rule the world and implement a cashless society, newspeak, a one world govt, monitor your every move, control, control, control.....what are they getting out of this and how do they benefit? They are already rich, is the only point of a one world system control? You know only 5% of the population at the time fought in the revolutionary war. How well do you think they could just take over with their laws and whatever else they force feed they people. Human nature will fight back eventually. Why don't some people just mercany style take these people out if they are only 1%? By my calculations 1% of 7 billion is 70milliom, out of that 70 million I highly doubt all 70 are shot callers. If all 70 million are shot callers I would say don't worry, no way shape or form can 70 million people collectively agree on anything especially if most are ego driven pyscopathic greed endured mad men/women. So let's take the 1% of the 1% and we are left with 700,000. Okay so I still think that number is to high, don't they have an end goal to eradicate most the population of the world to less than that? I mean how many people are we talking about here really? Fear is as real as you make it, a belief in what they are doing will only give more power to it right, drinking there kool aid per say. Yes many people are drinking the kool aid, but just as many are not. So what do you do give up, only prepare for the worst or whatever is coming, just bend over and take it, go out with no fight at all, not take back what was fought for, give up a land that so many have bled for, say what can there is nothing I can do about it? I think the real question would be not that if you believe there is an elite, but if there is what are you going to do about it.

[slow to learn]

(04-20-2012 08:13 AM)SonofYAHWEH Wrote:  Okay.....so they have this end goal to rule the world and implement a cashless society, newspeak, a one world govt, monitor your every move, control, control, control.....what are they getting out of this and how do they benefit? They are already rich, is the only point of a one world system control? You know only 5% of the population at the time fought in the revolutionary war. How well do you think they could just take over with their laws and whatever else they force feed they people. Human nature will fight back eventually. Why don't some people just mercany style take these people out if they are only 1%? By my calculations 1% of 7 billion is 70milliom, out of that 70 million I highly doubt all 70 are shot callers. If all 70 million are shot callers I would say don't worry, no way shape or form can 70 million people collectively agree on anything especially if most are ego driven pyscopathic greed endured mad men/women. So let's take the 1% of the 1% and we are left with 700,000. Okay so I still think that number is to high, don't they have an end goal to eradicate most the population of the world to less than that? I mean how many people are we talking about here really? Fear is as real as you make it, a belief in what they are doing will only give more power to it right, drinking there kool aid per say. Yes many people are drinking the kool aid, but just as many are not. So what do you do give up, only prepare for the worst or whatever is coming, just bend over and take it, go out with no fight at all, not take back what was fought for, give up a land that so many have bled for, say what can there is nothing I can do about it? I think the real question would be not that if you believe there is an elite, but if there is what are you going to do about it.

The reason this is all possible is because this is a supper natural force driving the greed and the battle is a spiritual war between good and evil! I believe Satin is the ruler of this earth and God is going to step in and take back the earth and set up his kingdom for a 1000 years!

The Elite driven by the greed of evil will be able to achieve this by controlling all our resources though laws passed though congress! And the money they have embezzled from nations to buy and take control of governments, property and resources. The central banks as a collective control well over half the world wealth!

[johndvs]

this is purely my speculation here but in regards to he bible we have this interesting verse in revelation. i do not know the context of a year here in god time, but it would appear that we will get a rest from evil for a period of time.

"And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations any more until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time. (Revelation 20-1:3 NIV)"

This verse makes me think of all the buzz going around about the worldwide mass arrest for the banking cartel. If the mass arrests do happen to me that would be a good indication of the verse above. if it does not happen then that would signal we are not quite far down the line for the events to take place, in other words not time for armageddon

[slow to learn]

(04-20-2012 10:15 AM)johndvs Wrote:  this is purely my speculation here but in regards to he bible we have this interesting verse in revelation. i do not know the context of a year here in god time, but it would appear that we will get a rest from evil for a period of time.

"And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations any more until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time. (Revelation 20-1:3 NIV)"

This verse makes me think of all the buzz going around about the worldwide mass arrest for the banking cartel. If the mass arrests do happen to me that would be a good indication of the verse above. if it does not happen then that would signal we are not quite far down the line for the events to take place, in other words not time for armageddon

I would totally agree!

[omygSilver]

(04-19-2012 09:44 PM)slow to learn Wrote:  Omygsilver,you are giving government way to much credit! If our government was in control then why did 90% of the bailouts go to foreign banks?

to much credit when I am pointing out there is nobody in control? That the entire Control is an illusion. And if we see it as what it really is.. a series of scams, and lies geared to take away real wealth and substitute illusions of wealth called paper money. The "they" lose their power over us.


It just so happens that the illusion is so good, we read in a correction to bring a post back in line with the lie.

it is much like looking at a more blue than green traffic light and calling it green. "the person who installed the light really wanted that light to look green" "we will agree that the Blue green light has the same meaning as a green light."


Or the story of the king who wore no cloths.

or that the Federal Reserve is as Federal as Fed-x

The real power is with the population it is only lent to the "leaders" and enforced by those true believers who carry out the crimes for the leaders.


I was once one of the true believers, my rose colored glasses got smashed. I was crushed for weeks, but it is like waking up from a dream... I see. So do many others whom I have read their posts in this forum.

this might help
THEY LIVE (6 parts)




and it is ok if you think I am a nut case.